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  • Favorite Crusade Episode?

    In honor of the new book coming out which will hopefully shed some light on some very interesting parts of this show, I've decided to watch crusade again. What was your favorite episode of the show?

    I'll hold off mine until i'm all the way through again, only about half way at the moment. Should finish the show tomorrow

    And does anyone know if JMS intended on having Dureena become a technomage?
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    They're all so different, it's hard to pick a favorite. "The Path of Sorrows" is definitely up there, though.

    As for Dureena, I seem to recall that she'd be getting some powers, possibly via the sword that she was supposed to get at some point. I think JMS said something about her going down a darker path.

    Jan
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    • #3
      I think I remember it being about her deciding to learn the Technomage ways on her own because she was tired of Galen not showing her, leading to her corruption.

      I like "Path of Sorrows" a lot since it delves into some background, and "Appearences and Deceits" is one of my favorites. The uniform story makes me laugh, and I think the animation of the bodies in the ship is pretty good for the time. My girlfriend's favorite is "The Needs of Earth"; she thought it was a good point about saving culture from destruction.

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      • #4
        Strangely enough, after rewatching, I think I enjoyed a non-jms episode first. Well of Forever really delves nicely into the character of Galen and who he is...and this time when I found myself watching the show that's all I seemed to be anticipating was more Galen development. He's such a deep and interesting character even though I don't like him sometimes.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SmileOfTheShadow View Post
          In honor of the new book coming out which will hopefully shed some light on some very interesting parts of this show, I've decided to watch crusade again. What was your favorite episode of the show?
          Tough to pick. I'd say it's between the following:
          "The Path of Sorrows"
          "The Well of Forever"
          and
          "The Needs of Earth"


          It'd be much easier picking a least favorite, "Ruling from the Tomb."


          FWIW, I wrote and posted this before I read Posts 2 thru 4 in this thread.
          Last edited by KoshN; 03-01-2010, 11:06 PM.
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          • #6
            Very similar to my list:

            "The Path of Sorrows", "The Needs of Earth" and "The Well of Forever" would be my favorites. "Visitors from down the streets" is my least favorite episode, although I like the X-Files, the parody-aspets in the the Crusade-ep are far to flat and not subtle for my taste.

            Despite JMS' feelings to the pilot episode, I tend to like "War Zone" quite a bit.

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            • #7
              "The Well of Forever" is one of the few that I really like. I do wish it had better music, though, because then it could be heartbreakingingly beautiful.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Morden View Post
                Very similar to my list:

                "The Path of Sorrows", "The Needs of Earth" and "The Well of Forever" would be my favorites. "Visitors from down the streets" is my least favorite episode, although I like the X-Files, the parody-aspets in the the Crusade-ep are far to flat and not subtle for my taste.

                Despite JMS' feelings to the pilot episode, I tend to like "War Zone" quite a bit.
                I haven't watched war zone in years. I agree with the x-files episode. it's a little bit over the top, and since x-files isn't really culturally relevent anymore it really dates the show and it doesn't hold up over time. At the time though, a different story.
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                • #9
                  I'd have to go with The Path of Sorrows, Appearances and Other Deceits, and Each Night I Dream of Home. TPOS was a good ep for all the flashback stuff. AAOD had Mr. Welles, so how can you go wrong with that? Eilerson was also awesome in this ep. ENIDOH was sorta like Signs and Portents for me. I already loved the show up to this point, and this just cemented it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Boo Gee View Post
                    TPOS was a good ep for all the flashback stuff.
                    I'm sure I've probably told this before but 'Path' was one of the unfinished episodes JMS showed here in Orlando after the show was cancelled but before it had aired. He told me later in the autograph line that TNT *hated* that episode because "Nobody cares about all that backstory!"

                    At the risk of yanking the thread off track, can somebody please explain to me why Matheson was ashamed and needed forgiveness? Was it survivor's guilt? Or guilt that he helped the resistance blow up headquarters?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Morden View Post
                      Very similar to my list:

                      "The Path of Sorrows", "The Needs of Earth" and "The Well of Forever" would be my favorites. "Visitors from down the Street" is my least favorite episode, although I like the X-Files, the parody-aspects in the the Crusade-ep are far too flat and not subtle for my taste.
                      I like the dialogue of "Visitors from Down the Street," and how JMS did The X-Files in reverse (i.e. from the alien's perspective), but the alien head prosthetics are what do it in for me. The tendrils remind me of artificial fishing worms , and because of that look incredibly fake/ridiculous, to me. Ditto for the alien's finger motions in "Appearances and Other Deceits." In contrast, D'Argo's tendrils on "Farscape" jad a stiffer, less jiggly, more like stiff latex kind of motion, and I have no problem with D'Argo's head prosthetics.



                      Originally posted by Morden View Post
                      Despite JMS' feelings to the pilot episode, I tend to like "War Zone" quite a bit.
                      I, too, like "War Zone" quite a bit, not all of it, but ~95% of it, yes.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jonas View Post
                        "The Well of Forever" is one of the few that I really like. I do wish it had better music, though, because then it could be heartbreakingingly beautiful.
                        I quite like the music during the scene where Galen lays Isabelle's ashes to rest. In fact, there are a lot of points during Crusade that I really like the music. More examples would be where Gideon is walking away from Dureena's quarters in "The Needs of Earth" and Gideon recording the messages for the families of the two fallen crewmen in "Appearances and Other Deceits."

                        Of course, there is also the noise at the end of "Ruling from the Tomb."
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jan View Post
                          At the risk of yanking the thread off track, can somebody please explain to me why Matheson was ashamed and needed forgiveness? Was it survivor's guilt? Or guilt that he helped the resistance blow up headquarters?

                          Jan
                          Guilt that he, a member of Psi Corps., helped the resistance blow up Psi Corps. headquarters.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JoeD80 View Post
                            I think I remember it being about her deciding to learn the Technomage ways on her own because she was tired of Galen not showing her, leading to her corruption.
                            The Technomages use Shadow technology. The implants were made on Z'ha'dum, which Lyta destroyed. Was it even possible for Galen to turn Dureena into a Technomage?
                            Andrew Swallow

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Andrew_Swallow View Post
                              The Technomages use Shadow technology. The implants were made on Z'ha'dum, which Lyta destroyed. Was it even possible for Galen to turn Dureena into a Technomage?
                              If between 2261 and 2267 the Technomages hadn't figured out a way to make their own implants, no. The Shadow way of making shadowtech involved the sacrifice of other sentient life, as a consumable food/energy source for the shadowtech (all shadowtech, be it ships or mage implants). Unless that was a shortcut (The Shadows didn't care about the sentients they were sacrificing.), and the Technomages found a better way, I doubt there would be any more mages created.
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