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  • #31
    Originally posted by Triple F View Post
    Hi,

    It’s been around a year since the last update to B5scrolls, so this one is a bit overdue. Though like the title says, this is likely to be the last one – even though there’s still things to add to it.
    So, I'm not sure who you pissed off along the way to warrant the responses in this thread, but I'd like to say that your 3-d models of the vessels on your site are pretty amazing. Thanks for putting in that effort.

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    • #32
      (I am so going to get it in the neck for popping back online – if I get caught : )

      The models were a throwback to an early version of the site – there was tongue in cheek descriptions next to them originally. I made about half of them, the rest are from the (far more) talented model builders who make their work available for others to nick – sorry use ( I have to put their names on each screen rather than on the separate credits section). I was experimenting with flash basically.

      If you liked them, you should check out the work of someone like Amras Arfeiniel. He’s done a lot more than even I did.

      http://b5.hc-gamer.de/index.php?
      http://amras-arfeiniel.deviantart.com/
      http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1834

      I met him online after doing mine, though he provided me with the late addition of the IA-1 (from the lost tales) that’s used on the site. His work is really beautiful and the mod for the X3 game is looking truly stunning.

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      • #33
        ok TripleF,
        Let me preface this by first letting you know it was not my intent to raise your ire. Had I know of your Irish temper, I would have taken a different route...Perhaps offering you a stout one first. I was simply trying to point out that the tone I was seeing in your posts was looking, to me anyways, like you were focusing squarely on the people on this board.
        That being said, I do spend much time delving into the histories of any show I take an interest in. Be it B5, Star Wars, Lost, Star Trek (yes I was one of the few that actually liked the premise of Enterprise). I have read the tech specs of the various shows, and as many others have commented on, your site offers some good examples for the modeling.
        I think your subsequent posts have clarified what your peeve was. Feel free to correct me if I misinterepreted. We were coming from the point of viewing the writer as central to the story, whereas you were trying to point out the importance of the artist and other parties that bring the writer's imagination to life.
        As a side point, i totally empathise with your internet connectivity issue. I am working with some fan podcasts where that is becoming a problem. For those of you not aware, not all countries base internet connectivity on a monthly unlimited amount. Some base your monthly access on the bandwidth, once you hit the max, you lose connection until the next month. As you can imagine, uploading and downloading audio files chews bandwith up in a heartbeat.

        TripleF, I look forward to your continued posts, and hope we can start anew as fellow posters.
        There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against such power, governments, and kingdoms, and conquerors cannot stand.
        WE WILL BE FREE!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ranger 6 and 7/8 View Post
          ok TripleF,
          ..........
          TripleF, I look forward to your continued posts, and hope we can start anew as fellow posters.
          Of course. My bad, in all seriousness. I really do find a purely written medium a hellishly clumsy and awkward way to communicate with people.

          I've a question.

          The other day I was ædoodlingÆ with the current content of the site, with one eye on trying to address the main criticism some folks levelled at it. i.e. ItÆs too dark to comfortably view on their individual monitor set ups.

          One of the things I was playing around with was a format I discarded shortly after I started getting in contact with the contributors. ThereÆs a reason why the site is called B5 Scrolls.

          Is this any easier to read. ItÆs just a test page (well six actually). ThereÆs not a lot of code behind the screen so the only buttons that work are the numbered options 1 to 6 at the top.
          http://themadgoner.com/B5/B5Scrolls/B5ScrollsOld.htm

          Personally I think itÆs a bit too gimmicky. Fine for a fan site full of nonsense but seemed increasingly inappropriate with each new contributor - which is why it was originally dropped. There was also a pile of other aesthetic and practical reasons for getting rid of it as the word count (and variety of images) continued to grow. That and IÆm not (maybe that should read was) overly experienced with getting the best from paint packages.

          ItÆs rough, very rough. The pages from the Steve Burg interview are not in sequence, just picked at random. The screen compositions, images and colours, etc. are all over the place because itÆs just a test to see if the idea could work. No point spending time on details if the general idea doesnÆt work.

          So. Those that feel the site is too dark, is this more readable. Does anyone find it too bright or garish.

          Cheers.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Triple F View Post

            I've a question.

            The other day I was ‘doodling’ with the current content of the site, with one eye on trying to address the main criticism some folks levelled at it. i.e. It’s too dark to comfortably view on their individual monitor set ups.

            One of the things I was playing around with was a format

            Is this any easier to read.
            http://themadgoner.com/B5/B5Scrolls/B5ScrollsOld.htm

            Personally I think it’s a bit too gimmicky.

            It’s rough, very rough.

            So. Those that feel the site is too dark, is this more readable. Does anyone find it too bright or garish.

            Cheers.
            Certainly more readable !

            I could easily have gone with the old layout, just with some more contrast for the text. Dark grey text on a black background just does not work for me. Something like dark blue and light (no pastels ) yellow-ish has done fine for me.

            Too bright ? not really, though, granted, a darker background would fit the B5 theme better.

            Thanks for making the experiment, Triple-F.
            Jan from Denmark

            My blog :

            http://www.babylonlurker.dk

            "Our thoughts form the Universe - they *always* matter"

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Triple F View Post
              So. Those that feel the site is too dark, is this more readable. Does anyone find it too bright or garish.
              No, it's much better! Definitely the way to go!

              (Though I used a black background on my site, it was mainly because the images from the animations were all from space, so in any other colour the details would be lost to the viewer. Also, unlike you, I had little text.)
              Babylon 5 Animations

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              • #37
                MUCH better! And I like the more scroll-like look.

                Jan
                "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                • #38
                  I like it alot. Your definitely headed in the right direction. Your site is so packed full of knowledge, anything that makes it more accessible is great!
                  What a wonderful world you live in. -
                  Yeah, well, the rent is cheap, the pay is decent and I get to make my own hours.

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                  • #39
                    Very nice, and no, I don't think it's too much.
                    "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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                    • #40
                      IÆll take that itÆs a yes then (thanks for the replies). Good. It would take a while and thereÆs a few problems surrounding the idea (due to the number and variety of screens û including ships, etc.) but it may be worth trying.

                      Now. Here comes the $64,000 question (connected to one of those problems).

                      To do this half decently IÆll need to include a lot of images to the various interviews (from various sources û not just B5). On this forum contains the largest collection of knowledgeable fans IÆm aware of. You guys have access to stuff I donÆt even know exists.

                      Anyone up for a bit of scanning. Yes I said scanning. ; )

                      It would also have the advantage (if you want to call it that) that old or rarely seen (on-line) stuff could raise new questions that I could ask the folks who were involved (as well as further images).

                      Just a thought, but it would make things easier to try this (and ultimately improve the content). If anyone is happy to help, give me a PM.

                      Cheers

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