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  • #16
    yeah and they didnt even know it was there at first, i liked DS9 it was a pretty decent series, ive watched trek long before i ever heard of B5, it was just dumb luck while flippin through the channels that i came across the wonder that is Babylon 5
    There is a greater darkness than the one we fight, its is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way.

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    • #17
      <<it was just dumb luck while flippin through the channels that i came across the wonder that is Babylon 5>>

      I still have the TV Guide with Picard and Sisko on the cover. It had a story on all the sci-fi shows coming out: DS9, B5, Space Rangers, etc.

      I thought B5 looked like a ST rip off, but I watched TG and found it decent, if only for its vast difference from ST. And I was only 17, so it wasn't like I was going for artistic evaluation. So B5 disappeared and with no internet, I thought it had been canceled. But when they came to TNT, I started watching it a little bit and then more and more and then I watched Crusade and then I watched more B5 on SFC. So while I have always watched B5, it wasn't until the DVD's that I got to see the whole show for what it was. Before I had been doing something like flipping to random pages in a novel. There may be some good lines and stuff, but it was confusing.
      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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      • #18
        Somewhere, I've still got a copy of the infamous TV Guide issue with the Dilbert cover and the interview with Scott Adams. TV Guida at the time was Notoriously "Pro Trek, Anti B5". Fella named Jarvis.

        16 Jun 1994
        There are a number of people at TV Guide, including Jeff Jarvis, who want *zero* references to B5 at worst, to slam it at best. If we went on the air in the spring again, they'd simply not mention us at all. Does anyone actually think they cover things based on *quality*?
        They don't.
        It's whoever buys the cover that week. By going in the fall, they pretty much *have* to at least mention us, so that's a start. But that's not the full reason; it has much also to do with rerun schedules and how you make episodes stretch between sweeps periods.
        jms

        (Oh, and a P.S. to those who parroted the comments of Jeff Jarvis at TV Guide about the "cheesy" special effects/CGI in the B5 pilot: we just received word that we've won an Emmy for Best Special Effects in a TV Movie.)
        jms

        Rumor had it that, when Adams said Babylon 5 is the greatest SF TV Show ever, they tried to pull the interview.
        But, they couldn't.
        They'd evidently already Advertised it the Previous week.
        And Adams insisted that his "Interview" be printed as he Said it.

        That WAS why Adams got the walk on in Season 5.

        "DILBERT" CREATOR SCOTT ADAMS
        APPEARS ON "BABYLON 5"

        Cartoonist drops in on what he calls
        "the best television show ever made"

        (Burbank, CA -- April , 1997) - Cartoonist Scott Adams, who satirizes the American workplace each day in over 1550 newspapers around the world with his comic strip, "Dilbert," makes an appearance on his favorite program, "Babylon 5," airing (day and time on channel).

        Earlier this year, Adams character "Dilbert" listed his favorite shows for TV Guide and picked "Babylon 5" as his top choice stating it is --"the best show ever made." Producers later contacted him to discuss appearing in an episode, and despite pressing deadlines for his latest book, the cartoonist jumped at the chance.

        ""Babylon 5" is the only show I schedule my time around," he says.
        "No matter how busy I am, I won't book anything when "Babylon 5" is on.
        So when they asked me if I was interested in being on, I said 'of course.' I mean, how often do you get to be on a TV show, let alone your favorite show?"

        Producers originally talked with Adams about playing an alien character, "but as it turns out, I play a human -- a slightly deranged human, but a human nonetheless." In the "Babylon 5" episode titled "Moments of Transition," he portrays a mystery man named, appropriately enough, "Mr. Adams", who solicits the services of former station security chief and private investigator, "Michael Garibaldi" (Jerry Doyle), supposedly to locate a lost dog. "Garibaldi" decides the assignment is not for him when the strange man cryptically warns him of a mysterious plot to take over the galaxy.

        Attending to Adams' needs in the episode is his silent Minbari aide, played by Adams' real-life girlfriend, Pam Okasaki. "I'm glad Pam had to be the alien and not me," admits Adams. "With all that makeup, I didn't want to get all that sticky stuff in my hair."

        Adams called filming the episode at "Babylon 5's" Southern California set "a blast," but says he won't give up his "Dilbert" gig any time soon, even though he was required to apply for a Screen Actor's Guild (SAG) card in order to participate in the "Babylon 5" episode. While on the set, he managed to achieve another objective -- to gather information for his new book, "The Dilbert Future" (to be released in mid-May by HarperBusiness).
        Last edited by bakana; 07-24-2004, 10:02 PM.

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        • #19
          Why doesn't that ep sound familiar? I don't remember the character.
          Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
            Why doesn't that ep sound familiar? I don't remember the character.
            It is the episode in which Lyta is nealy thrown out of her quarters. Delenn goes back to Minbar and enters the starfire wheel.
            Andrew Swallow

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Andrew_Swallow
              It is the episode in which Lyta is nealy thrown out of her quarters. Delenn goes back to Minbar and enters the starfire wheel.
              Oooooooooh...I have only seen that ep once. I fell asleep the second time through.
              Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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              • #22
                is that the one where he says his pets are trying to take over the universe?
                Duracell Bunny is arrested and charged with BATTERY!!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by circularREASON
                  is that the one where he says his pets are trying to take over the universe?
                  Yes.
                  Andrew Swallow

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                  • #24
                    is that the one where he says his pets are trying to take over the universe?
                    Exactly. Dogbert & Catbert...

                    If you watch the scene, notice the Minbari standing behind Adams.
                    That's his girlfriend. She is evidently an actress, so they gave her the part.
                    She appears to be acting as a sort of Secretary/Companion to Adams character.

                    Hmmm. Maybe that's how a Minbari who wants to play "Tourist" does it. Considering the Minbari have an almost Moneyless economy.
                    From what little was said about it, the Minbari Economy appears to be more a Communistic or Socialist Meritocracy.
                    No one is alowed to Starve, but no one accumulates wealth.
                    You get the impression that Wealth and "conspicuous consumption" is regarded as Vulgar by the Minbari.
                    Service to the Whole of Society appears to be the Minbari Ideal.

                    They certainly make it work better than we Humans ever have.

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                    • #25
                      <<You get the impression that Wealth and "conspicuous consumption" is regarded as Vulgar by the Minbari.
                      Service to the Whole of Society appears to be the Minbari Idea>>

                      Heh, I love Londo's rendering of "help" in regards to Vir's report-writing.
                      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
                        Oooooooooh...I have only seen that ep once. I fell asleep the second time through.
                        OMG! You've only seen "Moments of Transition" once? That's only one of the best and most important eps. Guess someone needs to watch the series again.

                        CE
                        Anthony Flessas
                        Writer/Producer/Director,
                        SP Pictures


                        I have no avatar! I walk in mystery and need nothing to represent who and what I am!

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                        • #27
                          <<OMG! You've only seen "Moments of Transition" once? That's only one of the best and most important eps. Guess someone needs to watch the series again.>>

                          First time I guess I just forgot (about the psycho), given the impact of the rest of the story, second time was when I was showing the series to my mom, and I fell asleep. Third time will be coming up as I am watching the show all the way through. I am on Sic Tranist Vir next.
                          Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
                            <<OMG! You've only seen "Moments of Transition" once? That's only one of the best and most important eps. Guess someone needs to watch the series again.>>

                            First time I guess I just forgot (about the psycho), given the impact of the rest of the story, second time was when I was showing the series to my mom, and I fell asleep. Third time will be coming up as I am watching the show all the way through. I am on Sic Tranist Vir next.
                            You will LOVE the moment where Delenn faces the starfire wheel. It's a beautiful moment for Neroon. IMHO one of the great scenes in the series.

                            CE
                            Anthony Flessas
                            Writer/Producer/Director,
                            SP Pictures


                            I have no avatar! I walk in mystery and need nothing to represent who and what I am!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by colonyearth
                              You will LOVE the moment where Delenn faces the starfire wheel. It's a beautiful moment for Neroon. IMHO one of the great scenes in the series.

                              CE
                              ::sob:: Fine, rub it in why don't you that 'Moment's of Transition' is one of the two scripts I'm missing. Took me a long time to realize that all those scripts are probably sitting in people's closets with Scott Adams' autograph. They can *have* the cover page, all I want is the script!!! ::sob::

                              Jan - who also loves that episode
                              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                              • #30
                                all those scripts are probably sitting in people's closets with Scott Adams' autograph.
                                C'mon now jan, Scott Adams couldn't possibly have ALL of them.

                                Dogbert, OTOH...

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