Open B5 questions

[Jan]

Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller

Are you eating Domino's Pizza?

Huh? Is that meaningful?

Jan

[Night Marshal]

what does this have anything to do with "Are you eating Domino's Pizza?"

I was simplify arguing the counterpoint.

[Dr Maturin]

<<While it is true that space is an issue with 1000's of ships flying through I would think people would mind shiping Freezedried and dried produocts. Such products take up much less space that there fresh conterparts. I mean thats what astronots eat in orbit. Because your still going to be shipping food it just the natural order of thing most places can't product food year round. While it is true that space on a ship is an issue with 1000's of ships flying around I would think people would not mind shipping Freeze-dried and dried products. Such products take up much less space than there fresh counterparts. ThatÆs what astronauts eat in orbit to save space for experiments. Because youÆre still going to be need to ship food it just the natural order of things most places can't product food year round. >>

Are you eating Domino's Pizza?

[Night Marshal]

While it is true that space is an issue with 1000's of ships flying through I would think people would mind shiping Freezedried and dried produocts. Such products take up much less space that there fresh conterparts. I mean thats what astronots eat in orbit. Because your still going to be shipping food it just the natural order of thing most places can't product food year round. While it is true that space on a ship is an issue with 1000's of ships flying around I would think people would not mind shipping Freeze-dried and dried products. Such products take up much less space than there fresh counterparts. ThatÆs what astronauts eat in orbit to save space for experiments. Because youÆre still going to be need to ship food it just the natural order of things most places can't product food year round. They might be some stock piles but new and expanding worlds are still going to need food to say nothing of shortages.

Also you should look at the Example of the Silk Road. The Romans loved Chinese Silk. It took mouths to travel between the two countries Add to that Bandits and the natural hazards of living 2000 years ago. Basically what IÆm saying that you would have to be crazy to want to do this. Yet people did it anyways The same would be true is space there are always going to be people who want to eat a little something from home like Garibaldi maybe they canÆt afford it all the time. But if everyone buys it once in a while you have a market, and if there money to be made Business will convince the government to let them do it.

[bakana]

A better question is why coffee would be short at all? It travels very well and can be stored indefinately.

Shipping Weight.
Shipping stuff all the way from Earth would be VERY Expensive.
Starships cost Billions of dollars to build and the people who own them want their Money back.
It's not like here where coffee can be loaded onto a slow freighter.
It's the equivalent of flying it first class on a 747.

Plus, there seems to be a Bureaucraticly approved LIST of foods that can be shipped.
Probably to encourage local food production.

We saw the same thing when Garibaldi needed the ingredients for Baugna.

[grumbler]

Originally posted by Capt.Montoya
How did Ivanova ever manage to grow and prepare real coffee at B5??

She had it smuggled in. Since smuggling is a crime while using a bit of hydro space is a sin, she lied about the source.

A better question is why coffee would be short at all? It travels very well and can be stored indefinately. No matter how long a Navy deployment I was on or how far away we got, there was always plenty of coffee, even if there was a lack of anything fresh like eggs or milk or veggies.

[vacantlook]

A genetically engineered type of coffee plant perhaps?

[Capt.Montoya]

Here's a question:

Coffee trees take years to grow, getting the beans requires letting the cherries dry and removing the fleshy exterior. The coffee then has to be dried and roasted by someone quite experienced (connoiseurs would tell you that badly roasted grains are worthless). Making coffee is no small beans...

How did Ivanova ever manage to grow and prepare real coffee at B5??

[Capt.Montoya]

From what I remember there was no "I'll be there" in Kosh's message.
Such important quotes are usually found in the Episode Guide Page at the Lurker's Guide to B5, or in the synopsis, the quote registered there is "When the long night comes, return to the end of the beginning."

There's one related JMS post in the archive here:

http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-10871&query=kosh%20neil

Zoe wasn't Lochley's sister, but a close friend with whom she ran away from home.
As WC says Kosh couldn't be at Coriana 6, Kosh was indeed suredead, nowhere in this galaxy, his essence not captured by machines nor Soul Hunters, neither near the Galactic Center nor Beyond the Rim, but wherever Vorlon souls go after death.

[WorkerCaste]

Originally posted by Bonehead
In the 'Day of the Dead' in season 5, Lockley is visited by her dead sister. At the last minute, she gives Lockley a message for Sheridan from Kosh.
It goes something like : "When the time comes, return to the end of the beginning. I will be waiting."

So when we get to 'Sleeping in Light', and Sheridan makes his last journey to Coriana 6, (and I'm usually welling up by this point) why is there no Kosh ? Instead we get Lorien, which is ok but it sure would have been nice to see good old Kosh one last time.

Remember, Hosh is dead, and Lorien isn't. In the Day of the Dead, it was dead people who had messages for the living. From that perspective, it makes sense that Kosh would give SHeridan one last cryptic instruction from the grave, but that Lorien would be there to catch him, much like when Kosh instructed SHeridan to "Jump!"

[Bonehead]

In the 'Day of the Dead' in season 5, Lockley is visited by her dead sister. At the last minute, she gives Lockley a message for Sheridan from Kosh.
It goes something like : "When the time comes, return to the end of the beginning. I will be waiting."

So when we get to 'Sleeping in Light', and Sheridan makes his last journey to Coriana 6, (and I'm usually welling up by this point) why is there no Kosh ? Instead we get Lorien, which is ok but it sure would have been nice to see good old Kosh one last time.

[Dr Maturin]

Is it simple irony that Robert Rusler played in a movie entitled "Wasted in Babylon?"

[grumbler]

Originally posted by bakana
Well, since Lennier Could have opened the door and rescued Sheridan, it follows that, if anyone had died as a result of his NOT opening the door, he would have been responsible.

Killing someone by Not helping is still Killing.

I love pseudo-law. "Responsible" in a moral sense is a far cry from responsible in a legal sense.

And a few people Have gone to jail for refusing to help.

Names, dates, locations?

BTW, most US states that I've driven in require the first driver who arrives at the scene of an accident it to Stop and Render Assistance even though they are NOT involved in the accident.

Name one of them, please. I have never heard of this requirement in any of the some 40 states that I have driven in or the eleven states in which i have held drivers' licences.

[grumbler]

Originally posted by Michael Malloy
Law or not, it is a moral thing to do. After all, if you were helpless in a similar situation, wouldn't you be happy if someone stopped to help you in some way? I would.

Yep, which is why I pointed out above that lenier's inaction was of moral, not legal, consequence.

[Dr Maturin]

<<Killing someone by Not helping is still Killing.

And a few people Have gone to jail for refusing to help.>>

Yeah, we've all seen the Seinfeld series finale.

Lennier also had a reason to kill Sheridan, and Delenn knew it.