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  • #16
    <<If so: how did the females give birth to babies with possibly very sharp horns....>>

    Well, you don't know what they're made of "down there." Gives the term "bonehead" a whole new meaning.
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    • #17
      Scientifically, it would stand to reason that the bones in the head structure would be soft-cartilage for the first few days. Just as our babies have very soft bones the first few days of their life, so Minbari babies would have the same type of response.

      ooo..here is a weird though to put in your mind..How do Vorlons mate? I am guessing like an amoeba, they break of a piece that grows into a new vorlon with the sentience of its predecessor and then goes on to gain its own experiences..
      thoughts anyone?
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      • #18
        <<oo..here is a weird though to put in your mind..How do Vorlons mate? I am guessing like an amoeba, they break of a piece that grows into a new vorlon with the sentience of its predecessor and then goes on to gain its own experiences..
        thoughts anyone?>>

        Given their long lifespans, I'd think that mating would be a rare thing and therefore very ceremonial and probably difficult, not just slam, bam, thank you ma'am. You may be right, Ranger.
        Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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        • #19
          <If so: how did the females give birth to babies with possibly very sharp horns....>>
          JMS addressed that a Long time ago:

          They do it the same way Deer, Antelope, Moose & Squirrel do it here on Earth.

          The headbone grows during Childhood. They ain't Born with it.

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          • #20
            Ok, my first question posted here....
            In the movie The Gathering, Delenn uses a ring to hold G'Kar with 2, 3, then 4 gravities. I don't remember seeing this ring or any of the other ones she has behind that panel. Does she?

            Also, and interesting side... When Kosh comes onto the station he see's Sinclair and says "Entil Za Valen"(forgive my bad spelling)

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            • #21
              I don't remember seeing this ring or any of the other ones she has behind that panel. Does she?
              No. Like Delenn's make-up and several other elements of the pilot, the rings were dropped as a bad idea.

              Also, and interesting side... When Kosh comes onto the station he see's Sinclair and says "Entil Za Valen" (forgive my bad spelling)
              Actually, Kosh doesn/t say anything. He thinks that, to himself. Lyta is inside Kosh's mind recovering his memories, and therefore "hears" it. Kosh recognizes Sinclair as Valen (and seems surprised to see him.) Note that the musical tones of Vorlon speech and Kosh's translator are not heard before the words "Entil'Zha Valen". (The "line" was in JMS's original script for the pilot, but was cut before they shot it. No actor was hired to give Kosh a voice until the series started production many months after the pilot was made. JMS had Ardwright Chamberlain record the Entil'Zha line as part of the TNT-financed 1998 re-edit.

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              • #22
                Ah, Thank you kind sir. I knew about Delenn's makeup and I'm glad that was changed.

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                • #23
                  Artists conception of Delenn, circa 1988




                  Acck, I guess images don't show up in the messages.. Drat.
                  Last edited by NotKosh; 08-13-2004, 10:11 AM.
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                  • #24
                    I guess images don't show up in the messages.. Drat.
                    No problem, clicking on the Link opens a new window on the site where the image lives.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by NotKosh
                      Artists conception of Delenn, circa 1988




                      Acck, I guess images don't show up in the messages.. Drat.
                      Interesting...I tried different numbers in the address and found some other pictures. My guesses....

                      1. Kosh being operated on...if not, then just the doctor, whoever he may be.

                      2. Ivanova

                      3. G'kar

                      4. Sinclair

                      5. Garibaldi

                      7. Vorlons?

                      8. Londo Mollari!
                      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                      • #26
                        the rings were dropped as a bad idea.
                        Yeah. Considering it is very unlikely you could store the amount of power required to generate a gravity field in just a Ring, it'd just be some sort of remote control.

                        And, pretty useless, since she'd have to run back to her quarters every time she needed one.
                        And you can't expect the bad guys to wait around all the time while you rummage in the old Jewelry Box ...

                        Plus, we know that Garibaldi is authorized to search even the Ambassadors for illegal weapons and confiscate anything he finds.
                        The Minbari were obviously not sharing Technology with Earthforce, so Delenn wouldn't bring anything too "Confiscatable" onto the station.

                        The White Stars, of course, were given to Sheridan and the Rebels, not to Earthforce.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
                          Interesting...I tried different numbers in the address and found some other pictures. My guesses....

                          1. Kosh being operated on...if not, then just the doctor, whoever he may be.

                          2. Ivanova

                          3. G'kar

                          4. Sinclair

                          5. Garibaldi

                          7. Vorlons?

                          8. Londo Mollari!
                          Those sound like the original Peter Ledger concept sketches from the Treatment. Although Ivanova wasn't invented yet (nor Takashima), the sketches showed Vice Commander Laurel Chang. Also, it was Dr. Chakri Mendak operating on an alien (not Kosh). G'Kar was named Jakarr back then and it was Londo Collari. Kosh had a wife...lots of changes to what became the B5 we know!

                          Jan
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                          • #28
                            Someone has been peeking!!!!!!

                            I was bored and read the 2nd draft of the B5 treatment. I was going to have a guess the character with a bunch of pictures, but that lost its fascination when I discovered you couldn't imbed images in posts.

                            Here they are.


                            Dr. Chakri Mendak, doing doctor stuff


                            Cmdr Laurel Chang - became Takeshima?


                            G'kar


                            Sinclair


                            Garibaldi


                            Delenn (male)


                            Vorlons, Kosh with his mate


                            Londo


                            The station



                            I figured Jan would know what these were...
                            Last edited by NotKosh; 08-13-2004, 01:46 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by NotKosh
                              Someone has been peeking!!!!!!

                              <snip>

                              I figured Jan would know what these were...
                              If it helps, I had to go get my copy to look up Chang's name. And I'd forgotten the Collari spelling of Londo's name. I was just showing the treatment to my visiting sister last weekend. She's my main convert to B5.

                              Jan
                              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                              • #30
                                Looking at the sketches, it appears that one of the Biggest changes was that Garibaldi & Londo traded Hair Stylists.


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