A late word from JMS

[grumbler]

Re: that is what i figured

Originally posted by Ranger 6 and 7/8
I mean i could talk B5 for hours, but then i would turn into a zombie eyed- mutant with an aversion to sunlight...

I thought that was the requirement to fit in here....

[Andrew_Swallow]

Originally posted by Joseph DeMartino
Why, what language do the unmarried ones use?

unmarried The 'queens' English.

The high church ones sometimes have to be discouraged from using Latin.

Or are you under the impression that Catholic priests still say prayers in Latin? If so, your information is about 40 years out of date - which somehow doesn't surprise me. The Mass has been said in the local venacular since the Second Vatican Council in the early 1960s. In the English speaking world Catholic priests say their prayers in English, surprise, surprise.

Yes that is the language the priest used the last time I was in a Catholic church. He was not married.

It has been fun watching the replacement of the Old Catholic service. The Pope should have held a requiem mass for the old prayer book. Defrocking was not the proper fate for a good and loyal servant of the Church.

I'm still not sure how Catholic Mary's reintroducing Catholic monks and nuns into a most definitely not Anglican church has anything to do with how they ended up as part of the C of E after Elizabeth undid all her work and set England firmly on the path of Protestantism, but I'll take your word for it that the two events are somehow connected.

Regards,

Joe

Looks like the Church of England needed a few monasteries to train its priests. Also the new monasteries probably did not have any land to steal, so they were left alone.

[Capt.Montoya]

Ranger 6 and 7/8: for B5 novels you'd really need to wait for a call, since all of the latest have been based on outlines by JMS or have been novelizations. I'd say not only don't hold your breath, but even don't waste your time on any B5 project beyond an outline level... Good luck in your writing projects. Oh, and JMS has always been very serious about not hearing any story ideas from fans so don't go that way...

I stand corrected on the possibility of problems with Walter M. Miller's estate (he died in 1996).
I did not find "Canticle for Leibowitz" boring at all... it wasn't adventure, more of an intelectually engaging tale.
Maybe it's the fact that I'm a Catholic (Miller was one too) so I found the descriptions and reimagination of the Church hierarchy aspects interesting. But what I really enjoyed was the rediscovery of science and technology, contrasting it to the history of science and technology. That history is one of my interests, also add to it the social comment on the impact of science and technology... an intelectually stimulating tale for me. Not the very best novel in plot or characterization, but still good and not boring.
If you ever read James Blish's short story "Surface Tension," that's another one where I thoroughly enjoy the rediscovery of science aspects.


BTW: in the USA you can find Catholic Churches that have mass both in English and Spanish.
There is a faction that calls themselves "Traditional Catholics" or something like that, to which Mel Gibson and his father belong, they rejected the Vatican II decisions, still have mass in Latin, etc. I only knew this with the controversy with Gibson's "Passion of the Christ."

Going back to the Monks in DoFS... if they were in the Americas and the world had devolved that much the "asking for recognition from Rome" ruse (if it was one) could have been mantained for longer.
I'm not that sure monasteries are the places of learning they were back in the Middle Ages, nor that they would become that way... I guess history can repeat itself and just as the Catholic Church became a refuge for knowledge from being one of the few enduring and wide ranging organizations in the Middle Ages it might become the same again after a holocaust like the one in DoFS. On the other hand the Rangers could have set up such a monastic order from scratch, getting inspired from history without waiting for it to happen.

In any event, I think that such a series would never happen.

[Doktor]

I did not find "Canticle for Leibowitz" boring at all... it wasn't adventure, more of an intelectually engaging tale.

Ditto. I really enjoyed it. A very thought provoking read.

[colonyearth]

Originally posted by AislingGrey

I mean it's not like we've devolved into the question of abortion, or US politics, or whether we liked Rowan or Martin better.

We've managed to abort discussion of US politics...yet...Martin was da bomb!

[Jan]

Originally posted by colonyearth
We've managed to abort discussion of US politics...yet...Martin was da bomb!

Rowan hereby sends the Narn Bat Squad to visit you:

*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*WHAM*!!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled forum.

Jan

[AmyG]

And...why...

What's the little gold thing the Narn Bat Squad left behind for Colony Earth to find? It looks like... Is it The Hand...? Or...

No, it's just the Fickle Finger of Fate!

Old enough to remember,

Aisling

[Jan]

Originally posted by AislingGrey
And...why...

What's the little gold thing the Narn Bat Squad left behind for Colony Earth to find? It looks like... Is it The Hand...? Or...

No, it's just the Fickle Finger of Fate!

Old enough to remember,

Aisling

You bet your bippy it is!

Also old enough...

Jan

[frulad]

Oh yeah, well do either of you have a lobby card for The Maltese Bippy hanging in your aprtment?


Old enough to know better... :P

[colonyearth]

Originally posted by Jan
You bet your bippy it is!

Also old enough...

Jan

He he...you said "finger" and "bippy" in the same sentence.

*puts finger to mouth and does the crazy "blather-blather-blather" up and down whilst going "eeeeeeeehhhhhh" thing*

Nuts? Who's rambling incoherently?

And I don't know how old you ladies are (terrified and too much of a gentleman to ask ), but I'm not a baby myself. (Happy just passed birthday to me...38 now.)

What are you old enough to remember again? I forgot what we were talking about

CE

*as he goes slowly bonkers from waiting and speculating*

"It's a madhouse! A madhouse!

*feels like he's slowly being nibbled to death by cats*

[AmyG]

And I don't know how old you ladies are (terrified and too much of a gentleman to ask ),

And you don't even want to guess, based on the photos from the Hawthorne convention (http://www.fjordstone.com/jmscon)?

You can also find a recent picture of me here:

http://www.fjordstone.com/sound

The Narn Bat Squad is standing by to hear your guess...

Aisling

[Dr Maturin]

Remember, guys, Price Is Right rules...get closest to the age without going over. Now that I think of it, I bet a woman made up that rule.

[circularREASON]

Aisling.

Heres a complete stab in the dark.

( and please don't diss me if I am wrong )

35?

[Dr Maturin]

<<Heres a complete stab in the dark.

( and please don't diss me if I am wrong )

35?>>

::Holding pencil-thin microphone::

And the actual age IS...

[AmyG]

To be fair (since the question was actually posed to him), I'll wait until ColonyEarth weighs in before I make the Big Reveal.

Aisling