So, let's go into deeper B5:TMoS speculation

[grumbler]

Originally posted by Stunaep
Sure, but after roughly 1000 generations, I'm not so sure if S&D ascendancy even matters. There'd be a whoppin' lot of S&D grand-grand-grand....-grandchildren runnin' around.

Even in the future on 100-1 million years, i suspect generations come along closer than an average of 1,000 years apart, but your point is quite valid.

[figarojonez]

Well, just a thought here, but if it's titled "The Memory of Shadows," doesn't that at least infer the Shadows might be part of the story. Maybe even make it about the mimbari war 1000 years back. Or maybe the next great war.

And on that note, a Tepe War could be cool, but remember that this has to be made for the general public, and all the story that'd need to be told might be a little esoteric for someone who hasn't seen the series.

Just my two cents,
Figaro Jonez

[fgalkin]

If the thing is called the memory of Shadows, then its probably about the Drakh.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

[Joseph DeMartino]

Well, just a thought here, but if it's titled "The Memory of Shadows," doesn't that at least infer the Shadows might be part of the story. Maybe even make it about the mimbari war 1000 years back. Or maybe the next great war.

1) If you were correct it would imply that the Shadows were part of the story, not "infer" that.

2) But no, the title would not imply that the Shadows would have to be part of the story, or the Drakh, for that matter. The Crusade arc and some of the short-stories dealt with EarthForce's continued efforts to adapt left-over Shadow technology. The Technomages are also tied to this. For that matter the Telepaths were created by the Vorlons precisely as a weapon to use against the Shadows, so any of these plot threads could conceivably be covered by that title.

3) The point of doing a theatrical movie is to capitalize on the success of the DVDs - which means using as much of the original cast as possible. So no, there is never going to be a movie about the Minbari war of 1,000 years ago. You want to talk about something esoteric? Even a lot of fans would not be terribly interested in that story. Also there would be no humans in it, and that tends not to work in mass-market SF. Movies about previous Shadow wars or the fate of the first ones or other such things are not in the cards.

4) There is no next "cycle" involving the Shadows or any of the other First Ones. That was the whole point of Sheridan's life and mission. The cycles are broken, period. (True, Earth managed to fry itself in aother civil war, but the rest of the human settled worlds stayed out of that, as did the IA.)

And on that note, a Tepe War could be cool, but remember that this has to be made for the general public, and all the story that'd need to be told might be a little esoteric for someone who hasn't seen the series.

"Doing something with Picard and the Borg in the next Trekmovie might be cool, but remember that this has to be made for the general public, and the story that'd need to be told might be a little esoteric for someone who hasn't seen the series."

Oh, wait a second. They did that movie. They needed all of 10 minutes of screen time to lay in the back story (one dream sequence, a flashback or two, a few lines of dialogue) necessary for non-fans to follow what was otherwise a stand-alone story. SF fans tend to think that in order to really "tell" a story you have to start with the Big Bang and bring it right up to this afternoon. In drama that is rarely effective or desirable. The Teep War is the most self-contained major story still left untold in the B5 universe, could most easily involve more of the main cast than almost any other and is one that JMS has deliberately avoided telling for the past five years. Seems to me that he's been saving up for something big. I could be wrong, but I certainly think the Teep War has to be in the top two or three possible stories for the movie, and certainly shouldn't be dismissed because it is the opposite of "too esoteric" for a non-fan audience. Anyone who enjoyed the X-Men films (without having read 30 years of the comic books) should be able to understand an "opressed mutants vs. government controllers" story - which is essentially what the Teep War is.


Regards,

Joe

[jcbatz]

Wasn't there an announcement yesterday?

Does anyone know what the heck is going on yet? I'm hopelessly out of the loop.

[colonyearth]

Nothing has officially been announced. We are all...waiting.

"Caught between tick and tock."

[StarfuryXP1]

I can almost imagine the teaser poster campaign for a B5 movie of the Telepath War.

Black poster with silver text near the top reading "Can you keep a secret?"

Underneath, centre image, fairly subtle image of a PsiCorp logo. Perhaps highlighted as though from a single source of light.

And beneath that, in the same silver text, "Are you sure?"

And beneath that a small WB logo.

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Ah well, I can dream.

[CRONAN]

If the Teep War isnt in the upcoming feature film, i dont think it will ever be more than background in the B5 universe. Personally Im hoping for something new to happen.

Knowing JMS, if it the project is covering new territory, and I think it is, then we might as well all stop trying to guess at the storyline, as were most likely kidding ourselves.

[Jordan_Alexander]

Two comments...

I seem to remember someone a few years ago did some fan art of a B5 movie that involved the telepath war. It was a silver Psi Corp logo on a black bacground with the words "The Corp is Mother, the Corp is Father." And of course it also had on there "Babylon-5: The Telepath War". Does anyone know about this?

I really hope in a way that the new B5 project doesn't explore new storyline territory but rather fills in this big gap called the Teep War. I mean, we know that it happens and we know how it ends but it's the "in-between" stuff that intriques me to no end.

Plus, I want to see Lyta throw down on Bester.

[AaronB]

Originally posted by colonyearth


"Caught between tick and tock."

Andrew...
If that doesn't describe the situation, nothing does.

Aaron

[Ausir]

From the Crusade characters, I think Matheson could feature in a Teep War movie...

[turgon1375]

I don't think that any non-B5 characters will or should be in the feature film. I think most characters from S1-S5 will be in the film in either starring or support roles but I don't think any spinoff charaters will be included.

The main series characters have a much broader appeal than the spinoff characters. Personally, whenever I saw Capt. Gideon I just kept on seeing the boss from Office Space. And personally I would prefer to see the main characters from the main series.

[colonyearth]

Well, with the terrible loss of Rick Biggs, JMS will have to rethink certain elements...and while we will all rush to see TMoS, if for no other reason than to pay our respects to B5 and Rick, and while JMS of all writers can change a story to account for a missing or different actor in such a way that you would've thought that he wrote it that way the first time, TMoS will be greatly dimished by Rick's absence.

I will be conspicuous...there will be a gaping hole where a beloved soul once stood.

We know that Dr. Franklin would've been alive, but I suppose we will only hear about what he's doing now instead of seeing him.

My mind is numb. It's hard to wrap it around B5 without Rick. Odd, that in what was a time of celebration, a time when B5 was about to make a giant leap, that this should happen and that it will have to move on without Dr. Franklin. It will never be the same.

[Joseph DeMartino]

I don't think that any non-B5 characters will or should be in the feature film.

So there aren't going to be an guest-star characters in the movie? No villains, even? It will just be the series regulars standing around talking to one another?

Since there will obviously be some characters in addition to the B5 regulars the plot requires, I see no problem with some of these roles being filled by characters from Crusade or Rangers if it makes sense in the story. Matheson would certainly be a logical choice if the film touches on the Telepath War, and some other characters might fit in as well.

I can't stand to even think of what adjustments might need to be made due to Richard Biggs's untimely passing.

Regards,

Joe

[greenone]

Hi! I am new to the board.

I love B5 and have just finish collecting all 5 seasons on dvd.

I am excited about a B5 feature film and will be there to see it too.