*SPOILERS* B5: TLT: Voices in the Dark - *SPOILERS*

[raw_bean]

Over Here
Over There
And In Between

...perhaps?

For some reason that made me think of Stealer's Wheel. I have this hilarious image in my head of a TLT DVD menu that lists:

Babylon 5 - The Lost Tales

Play Stuck in the Middle With You
- Play Clowns to the Left of Me
- Play Jokers to the Right

[KoshTheFirst]

Oops! I posted this to the wrong thread!

[babylonlurker]

Over Here
Over There
And In Between

...perhaps?

I like that ...

"Understanding is a three edged sword" - remember ?

[vacantlook]

Over Here
Over There
And In Between

...perhaps?

[raw_bean]

May have to do with WB's decision to advertise and sell this item as "an original movie". Now they can argue that we see two parts of a single movie, not two stand-alone shortstory-episodes (although this is very obvious, even for non-hardcore fans).

I just have to wonder what it would have been when Voices In The Dark was made up of three parts.

Over Here

Over There

Over The Rainbow?

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Over Here

Over There

Over And Out?

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Over Here

Over There

Over The Moon?

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Over Here

Over There

Over The Top?

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Over Here

Over There

Over Exposed?

Okay I'm done now.

[Donald]

Back from vacation, watched it, loved it. The dialogue was fantastic, the best I've seen on any TV show to date. Both stories, I thought, were very well done. I've seen the Lochley story getting knocked around a bit but I enjoyed the religious themes JMS explored. The Sheridan story was great fun and I had a big smile on my face when he first showed up.

The beyond the rim lines really moved me.

I, too, noticed the lack of extras and it did bother me a little bit but certainly not enough to ruin anything for me. I suspect this problem will be rectified for the next installment.

[Morden]

That's another thing, why those titles? I can't come up with anything better mind you, but it would be fun to figure out (or find out) just what is behind that. Likely just a convenience title that he was working with and then said at the end, 'aw crap, just leave them, it works.'

May have to do with WB's decision to advertise and sell this item as "an original movie". Now they can argue that we see two parts of a single movie, not two stand-alone shortstory-episodes (although this is very obvious, even for non-hardcore fans).

[PMvanova]

Maybe the Minbari was visiting someone non-Minbari? Doing research? Whatever. I would have to watch it again to catch that. I think I was focusing on Lochley and the priest a bit much.

The only thing about the 'dialogue heavy' scene in that episode was halfway through the 'demon's' monologue all I thought was...
'Man! He had to memorize all that speech! Amazing acting ability there!'
Seriously, having done some theater in college, memorizing just a few lines can be tough.

The camera angles during his monologue (which I've forgotten most of since I was watching it very late I must have zoned out for a sentence or two) was a bit distracting after a while. It was meant to be I know, but it could have been about 30 seconds shorter and been just as effective.

I think for effect, watching Sheridan's piece first and then Lochley's would make the focusing in on her face a lot funnier and a bit more startling. I was tempted to watch it in that order to start with but chose differently.
Now the surprise is ruined but that's also the beauty of both episodes, you can watch them in either order and it will dovetail very well.

That's another thing, why those titles? I can't come up with anything better mind you, but it would be fun to figure out (or find out) just what is behind that. Likely just a convenience title that he was working with and then said at the end, 'aw crap, just leave them, it works.'

[n_stock]

This is somewhat of a retraction. I just saw the part of "Dust to Dust" where G'Kar gets sentenced for slapping around Londo. The judge uses the phase "station prison facilitates" as to where G'Kar is going and later on in "Point of No Return" when Garibaldi releases G'Kar we clearly see that G'Kar's cell is in Blue Sector.

Therefore, it is possible that the prisoner in "Over There" is in the station brig. In which case I would remind you that we are only seeing a small slice in time so we cannot possibly know what Minbari would be doing there. Maybe there are some Minbari in the brig and they are being helped by Minbari who work for the station.

[n_stock]

Yeah, I noted that as well, and then was astonished to find out that they were in the brig area.

Where did ever get the idea it was the brig? All we are told is that the prisoner is Blue sector and there is a sign noting where a prisoner is being held. My vote is for a makeshift cell.

[grumbler]

The one thing that I did notice and get bugged by was when Lockley was showing the priest the cold spot in the hallway, a Minbari walks right by and doesn't seem to react to it at all. Even with their stoicism, I would like to think there would have been some kind of reaction.

Yeah, I noted that as well, and then was astonished to find out that they were in the brig area. What was a religious caste Minbari doing in the brig area, and why were there no security people there? I could see a guard walking by, and even one walking by without reacting (they would have experienced it before). Was the passerby a Minbari just to avoid having to create a new uniform?

[frulad]

Well, I just finished watching everything on the disc, and I liked it alot. Perhaps my critical sense is a little subdued under the thrill of seeing some new B5, but so what.

As to the lack of station extras in the Lockley segment... I noticed in one shot, there's a sign behind Lockley that says "Secure Area." It seems to me that there wouldn't be a whole lot of people wandering through those particular hallways.

The one thing that I did notice and get bugged by was when Lockley was showing the priest the cold spot in the hallway, a Minbari walks right by and doesn't seem to react to it at all. Even with their stoicism, I would like to think there would have been some kind of reaction.

[Biggs]

Nice review, yeah...I think the whole angle of the DVD was to cater for exisiting fans...it's not for non B5 folk, but it might attract casual fans of the series who want to see what the updated Graphics etc look like in the B5 universe. The CG really is very well done.

I really do hope this is the first of the series, it definatly felt more like a pilot for a new series though, so lets get those sales levels through the roof and get some more in the can.

What are the odds on Warners giving the fundng to film say, 3 back to back? That would kinda make a little more sense, for mine....

[ljg701]

Some random thoughts after just having watched TLT.

It *feels* more like the original B5 than any of the previous TV movies, very much the start of a B5 Season 6, it's leagues ahead of LOTR.

It's not really epic in anyway, which may be a turn off for some fans and extremely dialog heavy in places.

The acting and writing are excellent though, IMHO JMS has certainly improved as a writer since B5 ended, the dialog seems far more natural.

The SFX are certainly a generation ahead of B5, particularly the use of virtual sets, although there was something about the rendering of the station which didn't seem quite right, although I couldn't put my finger on why.

The music is up the Chris' usual standard, the only bit I thought was tonally off was the organ music, which came across as a bit "Hammer House Of Horror/Phantom Of The Opera".

I appreciate that these are supposed to be small stories, but I hope any future installments broaden the canvas a bit. Well worth a purchase, hopefully the first of many discs

[Morden]

Wow, is that the one where you can move up and down?

For those who remember, there once was a very good Simpsons-episode about the 3D-topic in one of their Halloween-specials...!!!