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  • Group Watch: Z'ha'Dum

    If JMS didn't beat us over the head with foreshadowing that Sheridan was going to go there around this time...I don't know what he beat us over the head with. Probably orange juice. What's his obsession with orange juice anyway? It's mentioned in more than 10 episodes...I lost count. I digress.

    Anyway, Anna's back, it freaks out Delenn, Anna plants seeds of doubt (or so we think) to Sheridan about Delenn. Sheridan looks like he's just going to head over to the world of Shadows unsuspectingly. They tell him their side of the story. The vorlons aren't really good guys. Neither are the Shadows though, and Sheridan had a plan all along, we find out. Probably made it easier when it was found out his wife's real personality isn't there (by the way..all this personality erasing and then the Minbari soul thing seems contradictory. I mean, if that person's gone...and it's a new constructed person...confusing. However it seems generally accepted that both exist in this universe. I digress again. I need footnotes.).

    Very epic episode. There was no way my girlfriend or I could stop watching for these past three. It was getting very late, and we just kept going. Into the fourth season even. Action packed. The story of the vorlons and shadows completely pays off. It's just gorgeously written all the way around. I remember watching this for the first time on tv, and having to wait a week in between episodes. I don't know if I could do that now lol. You miss so much story just in the week that transpires because of forgetting small "throw away lines" and such.

    Poor Sheridan though. Imagine your old wife you thought was dead showing up years later, and *then* giving you information about your current lover that she'd been pretty much holding back on a lot of information.

    The novel The Shadow Within does wonders to give backstory to the Anna incident. I'm glad I read that before this run through the show, and would suggest picking it up.

    And buh bye Garibaldi.

    From this point on...nothing's going to be the same.

    Just like every season finale lol.
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    This is one of the best and most intense episodes that have ever been made for TV. Great epic style, writing and performance. My hair stands up every time we come to the finale where Sheridan encounters the Shadows, activates the remote White Star and jumps away from the explosion into the deep, while Delenn is watching his message including the "I love you"-lines. It's just perfect, and Franke's epic music contributes its part.
    And the plot twist that we are getting by what Justin tells about "their" side of the story and the real involvement of the Vorlons really pushes the story forward into another cool and interesting direction.
    A christal-clear B5-classic, a great installmet in TV history (as the entire show is, of course ), a fantastic season finale and a chilling cliffhanger - one of my all-time-favorites!

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    • #3
      Where hair stands on the back of my neck and arms more in Shadow Dancing.. this episode makes me lose my breath completely. I feel like I get the wind knocked out of me well actually it's more of a roller coaster. At the beginning you see the ending of Shadow Dancing again with Delenn's narration, then you see Anna convince Sheridan to go along, Delenn and Sheridan have a little squable, then Sheridan tells Garibaldi to talk about the weather .. that leads to Anna and John going to Z'ha'dum, Delenn gets a message from John, John confronts the shadows after talking with them, Garibaldi ends up captured and the best part of the episode for me that more memorable than anything else is when Anna and 2 shadows are coming towards Sheridan with to me the most hair raising music ever written for television or anything like that.

      I've never been so captivated in one single episode than this one. Even after seeing this ep. a few times already I still look forward to the last 10 minutes of the show. The music and build up right before Sheridan jumps and the bomb goes off still to me is my all time favorite. Besides WWE this episode puts the icing on the cake for 3rd season being my favorite. Personally between 1st season, 2nd and 3rd being that the 4th season doesn't really have a cliffhanger..this is my all time favorite! I guess you could say that even though the 5th season doesn't have a cliffhanger either because the series ends...the only thing that beats 3rd season cliffhanger is the season finale because it's just as powerful as Z'ha'dum.

      Oviously the great thing about this episode is that Kosh is revealed a little more as far as the link with Sheridan. There aren't enough words to describe how I feel about this episode..I should stop here because I could go on forever. All I have to say is that I have never seen an episode in television or movie history quite like this where everything is so tightly made but yet consistant and well done at the same time without being overly climatic, etc. I know some people don't care for the new Battlestar Galactica but the 3rd season cliffhanger is pretty darn close and of course I think Firefly would have suceeded as well if it hadn't been canceled..now the Hour of the Wolf

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      • #4
        Yeah, very hard to top this episode in terms of action and gripping you to your chair. Not a dull moment at all.
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        • #5
          Oranges

          Originally posted by SmileOfTheShadow View Post
          If JMS didn't beat us over the head with foreshadowing that Sheridan was going to go there around this time...I don't know what he beat us over the head with. Probably orange juice. What's his obsession with orange juice anyway? It's mentioned in more than 10 episodes...I lost count. I digress.
          I wonder if there's a Godfather nod involved as oranges are usually a foreshadowing of tragedy in that series

          Not much too add to what's been said except Framke comes throug AGAIN with a wonderful score. The scene of sheridan, his wife and the shadows on the balcony is the stuff of legend -- one of the most iconic moments in the entire series, capped by the White Star plunging to the ground like an arrow of fire.

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          • #6
            I cannot add much , this episode is one of by absolute favorites as well.
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