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    Moving right along and skipping a bunch of non-JMS episodes that really aren't going to impact the overall arc all that much. I watched a couple of them not-remembering that JMS didn't write every ep in season 2 before I saw the very large quality difference between the episdoes he's done and the ones written by others. I know he still had a hand on all of them, but it's really not the same.

    Even my girlfriend made a comment when we were getting into the stretch of non-JMS episodes that the show was really losing a lot of its luster, which was pretty astute of her, I think. That's what caused me to look at the dvds and see who wrote the episodes. Sure enough, I skipped the rest.

    Onto this episode, we have the return of Bester! We may or may not have expected his return by this point, I really had only begun watching the show so I wasn't anticipating his return. Was it announced that Walter Koenig would be back or not prior to this?

    Anyway, the corps are coming around, tracking down run away telepaths who are forming an underground resistance. Bester is shown as very cruel at the beginning of this, even moreso than the last time he showed up. Honestyl, if you haven't read the Psi-corps trilogy, read it before delving into the epsiodes like this. It gives you a way different perspective of Bester, and almost makes you feel sorry for him when you know his backstory.

    The opening sequence made me laugh because when Bester starts rambling about the man's last thoughts and the music picks up, you can just hear the next words coming. JMS likes to do his title sequences like this, and the formula goes. Music starts to pick up and the actor starts to get this profound revelation look on his face and he says "So-and-so is happening, and I've just discovered it's happening on..." pause for dramatic effect... "Babylon 5!" Cut to the title.

    I love it. But, it's used so much it cracks me up.

    Here's where we start to get a little more of mundanes distaste for teeps and vice versa, as everyone's always paranoid about scans, and it turns out for good reason with someone like Bester around. Garabaldi doesn't like what's going on but he is Mr. by the books.

    I like the mystery of who's helping the underground, though the answer's a pretty obvious one. Franklin seems to love to get into these situations with his underground clinic, this, the mars resistance.

    Sheridan agrees to buck the proper protocol and save the underground. He's not fully commital telling them to get off of Babylon 5, but this is a definite moment where he changes from pure military grunt to the leader who leads the resistance. At least that's what I got out of it. A foreshadow of things to come.

    I also like that a lot of the telepath resistance are people who are in the background as lurkers or whatnot in previous episodes. Props to that kind of attention to detail in continuity that makes this show great.

    Oh yeah..and Talia's a stronger telepath. Gee, didn't see that coming. JMS had to come up with ANOTHER excuse to make Lyta a stronger telepath later as he transfered the arcs to her.

    Missed one more point - start of the Sheridan/Delenn relationship. Makes me happy.

    Thoughts?
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    I agree with most of what you said about the non story arc episodes...But I do feel that Soulmates and A Distant Star are somewhat important.

    Soulmates is important to explain Londo's 3 wives which does come back up in the future especially in the Centauri Trilogy book with Londo's future after the 5th season all the way up to the last moments of his life..again I'm wink wink if you understand so I'm not giving anything away.

    I also think that A Distant Star is important for the Keffer story..(yes he's somewhat anticlimatic but it does help out for when we see The Fall of Night episode) I also am intrigued about the life boat scenario.

    I understand the Sheridan/Delenn story beginning but to be honest I find the episode Confessions and Lamentations the big big episode that really spawning the relationship more than any other. (Again not that there aren't any episodes before that) but of course we will talk about that one when we get to it.

    Overall I agree with the Bester/Psi Corps foreshadow but at the same time this isn't my favorite Bester episode.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Babylon5fan07 View Post
      I agree with most of what you said about the non story arc episodes...But I do feel that Soulmates and A Distant Star are somewhat important.

      Soulmates is important to explain Londo's 3 wives which does come back up in the future especially in the Centauri Trilogy book with Londo's future after the 5th season all the way up to the last moments of his life..again I'm wink wink if you understand so I'm not giving anything away.

      I also think that A Distant Star is important for the Keffer story..(yes he's somewhat anticlimatic but it does help out for when we see The Fall of Night episode) I also am intrigued about the life boat scenario.
      I haven't read the Centauri trilogy yet, but I might go back and watch Soulmates later again because PAD wrote it. PAD is wonderful. Keffer...I could care less about. lol But in the interest of trying to finish the series pre-TLT, I think these are good to be omitted.
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      • #4
        I don't wanna be a nitpicker, but is't the correct title "A Race Through Dark Places" (plural)...?

        As for the episode, it's always good to the see Bester back. All in all, it's sad that this whole Talia-development is pointless because she (alright, her actress ) left the show. But's it's a nice episode, and provides some material for the overall arcs including telepaths.

        Originally posted by Babylon5fan07 View Post
        Overall I agree with the Bester/Psi Corps foreshadow but at the same time this isn't my favorite Bester episode.
        My favorite Bester episode would be "The Corps is Mother..." from season 5, while my favorite Bester scene is in season 4's "Face of the Enemy" (the sequence with Garibaldi in the Mars transport tube).

        As for SmileOfTheShadow's leaving out the non-JMS-episodes, well...
        I agree, if he wants to finish the series before the TLT-release, this is a good way to rush things a little bit, and we are getting nearer to the point of the show when JMS started to write every episode (but don't leave out "Day of the Dead" in season 5, brother ). Personally, I tend to watch every episode because then the show has the most complete feeling to me, even if it means including some not-so-fascinating episodes (but "Soulmates" and "A Distant Star" are both OK, I have to agree with Babylon5fan07).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Morden View Post
          I don't wanna be a nitpicker, but is't the correct title "A Race Through Dark Places" (plural)...?

          As for the episode, it's always good to the see Bester back. All in all, it's sad that this whole Talia-development is pointless because she (alright, her actress ) left the show. But's it's a nice episode, and provides some material for the overall arcs including telepaths.



          My favorite Bester episode would be "The Corps is Mother..." from season 5, while my favorite Bester scene is in season 4's "Face of the Enemy" (the sequence with Garibaldi in the Mars transport tube).

          As for SmileOfTheShadow's leaving out the non-JMS-episodes, well...
          I agree, if he wants to finish the series before the TLT-release, this is a good way to rush things a little bit, and we are getting nearer to the point of the show when JMS started to write every episode (but don't leave out "Day of the Dead" in season 5, brother ). Personally, I tend to watch every episode because then the show has the most complete feeling to me, even if it means including some not-so-fascinating episodes (but "Soulmates" and "A Distant Star" are both OK, I have to agree with Babylon5fan07).
          Yeah, I wouldn't leave them out normally..but I'd like to get as far as possible pre-TLT. We can include day of the dead. And if anyone wants to start discussions on anything I skipped, I don't mind, I"ll go watch that one..I'm just trying to save people time.


          And..yeah..I goofed on the ep title.

          Yeah, the Talia development does end up being pointless, and they rush a lot of the Lyta development to get her up to speed for where she should be at, consiquentially. But..that wouldn't have happened if Patricia stayed with it from the get go.

          Now I'm just imagining some Patricia/Claudia scenes
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SmileOfTheShadow View Post
            Yeah, I wouldn't leave them out normally..but I'd like to get as far as possible pre-TLT. We can include day of the dead. And if anyone wants to start discussions on anything I skipped, I don't mind, I"ll go watch that one..I'm just trying to save people time.
            Continue as you wish!

            Originally posted by SmileOfTheShadow View Post
            Yeah, the Talia development does end up being pointless, and they rush a lot of the Lyta development to get her up to speed for where she should be at, consiquentially. But..that wouldn't have happened if Patricia stayed with it from the get go.

            Now I'm just imagining some Patricia/Claudia scenes
            Uh yeah...
            But you're right of course, Pat's first leaving created the initial problem here.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Morden View Post
              [...] my favorite Bester scene is in season 4's "Face of the Enemy" (the sequence with Garibaldi in the Mars transport tube).
              My favourite Bester scene is with Sheridan from "Rising Star". Two powerful people in a room just talking openly.

              Fascinating stuff.
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