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  • 3rd Age of Mankind (SPOILERS!!!)

    I don't know if JMS himself reads these cuz I'd love to get a confirmation from him but no biggie. As the thread states there are spoilers in this....


    After finally hearing Sheridan's statement on the 3 ages of Mankind ("Into the Fire") I began to dust off the cobwebs of my memory and remember some of my philosophy classes....something in here rang a very familiar bell. Sure enough, the infamous philosopher, Fredrich Nietzche talked of something very similar though it was not the 3 "ages" of mankind so to speak. Instead he spoke of a process known as the 3 stages of morality. The 1st involving primalcy in which we are savage animals unable to comprehend the world around us. The 2nd has humans evolving into an understanding yet only by greater forces who were able to teach us and guide us, and finally.....the 3rd stage of morality has humans on their own making the decisions for themselves. Granted the explanation is not as detailed as Nietzche had it but the similarities are awfully familiar! Wasn't sure if that was the Great Maker's intent or not...

    -Qsilver

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    Great Maker!?!

    Are we now referring to jms as the "Great Maker"? Isn't this a little too much like the god worship of Gene Roddenberry (The Great Bird of the Galaxy)?
    "Ivanova is God!"

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      Are we now referring to jms as the "Great Maker"? Isn't this a little too much like the god worship of Gene Roddenberry (The Great Bird of the Galaxy)?
      Of course. It's not quite as bad as just plain calling him God, and with his being our good writer and creator, it's got a decent touch of literal punnage, don't it? Heh.

      To answer a bit of Qsilver's question, we have no idea if JMS reads these forums, but we're pretty certain he won't be posting here anytime soon. He's got the Usenet group that this site archives for that.

      Haven't read Nietzche myself (yet) so can't comment on the rest.
      Radhil Trebors
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        Re: Great Maker!?!

        Originally posted by SpooRancher
        Are we now referring to jms as the "Great Maker"?
        Yes, but you MUST always do so in Londo's voice. Half the fun is thinkiing of JMS every time Londo says something like "Great Maker! What next?" or "the Great Maker must hate me!"
        I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone .. our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit .. that the part of me that is going .. will very much miss the part of you that is staying.

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        • #5
          Ah....Mihster GariBALDee

          Don't forget that line, which it is rumored that Peter Jurasik used every day on the set to get into character.
          "Ivanova is God!"

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            Are we now referring to jms as the "Great Maker"? Isn't this a little too much like the god worship of Gene Roddenberry (The Great Bird of the Galaxy)?
            "Now?" As far as I know, B5 fans have been referring to JMS as "Great Maker" for quite some time. And, it's not wholly inappropriate: he did create the series, and write most of the episodes, so who's more appropriate to serve as a deity of that universe?

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