Historical inaccuracy

[Lord Scotty]

Originally posted by colonyearth
Thank you Radhill...it's nice to know there are others out there who look at the writing on the wall and see that it raises some serious concerns and questions...not to mention the hair on the back of one's neck.

And to say that Bush has been compassionate...on anything...makes me seriously concerned for anyone who can convince themselves of that. Sorry, ZHDD, he's no compassionate. Even members of his own party have said as much, and have backed away from him on certain issues. This man has done more to divide this country than any president since Kennedy over civil rights. And at least Kennedy was on the correct side of that issue.

Stretching the truth? That's what you call it? Where exactly did you get those rose-tinted glasses you wear? A Republican give those to you did he?

And as for Kennedy...I didn't say that Stone's film was historically accurate...I said it tends to make sense to me. And there is no proof of the theory you mentioned anymore than any other theory. Was Oswald a shooter, maybe...maybe not, but I gaurantee you he was not the only one.

Hide your head in the sand much?

CE

PS: ZHDD, please quit responding to me as though I'm some ignorant, un-intelligent, un-informed, SF geek, conspiracy theorist, kid. I don't appreciate the condecending tone (that seems to be a right wing tool). I happen to be a very intelligent, well educated adult, and since I work in the news business, I tend to hear and see a lot of things that never make it to air. So I'm pretty well up to date on current affairs. I like to stay informed on what Bush is gonna f*ck up next. He's dangerous...and if you can't see that...I'm sorry. I just hope to God that he's not re-elected...because I am seriously concerned with just what might happen if he is. Is Kerry perfect? No, but he's not Bush, and he's got a more level head than Bush.

I'm not getting drawn into this any further. If you ever want to learn more and get your head out of the sand and actually look at the facts and the frightening conclusions even common sense point to...let me know. And a word of advice, quit using FOX News Channel for you statistics and polls...they're skewed to the right...I know...I work for them.

This isn't personal...but if you keep it up...it will be.

Okay, I stayed out of this for awhile, but I have to jump in. How in the world can you say anything. You work in the News industry. All reporters are full of crap, they cover up just as much crap as the politicians do. You admitted that yourself, as you said stuff doesn't make it on the air. So that means you know about things that aren't being given to the rest of the public. Maybe you should share that info before judging others.

Regards,

Lord Scotty

[Kevin]

Hey guys, this has gone terribly off-topic... so please calm down a bit about it or move it over to the off-topic section and take out those knives and go for it

[colonyearth]

Originally posted by Lord Scotty
Okay, I stayed out of this for awhile, but I have to jump in. How in the world can you say anything. You work in the News industry. All reporters are full of crap, they cover up just as much crap as the politicians do. You admitted that yourself, as you said stuff doesn't make it on the air. So that means you know about things that aren't being given to the rest of the public. Maybe you should share that info before judging others.

Regards,

Lord Scotty

First of all I said I work in the news industry...I'm not in a position to decide what goes out. And when I said I see things, I meant that producers choose not to run stories or angles in their show due to time or whatever reason...but I get to see it all.

I work in this industry out of necessity...not desire. I hate FOX News because it's so damn right wing it's scary. Everyone who works for FOX that I know is aware of the right slant on everything and hates it.

We alter things when we can without loosing our jobs. My 5pm producer won't run a FOX news package on Iraq anymore, he will run the CNN package because it's more informative and less biased.

And don't say all reporters are full of crap...do you know, personally, all of the reporters in the world? If so, you know a lot of people. There are great reporters and bad reporters as in any profession. But realize that no reporter is fully responsible for the content of his or her story. Producers, EP's, News Director's and any other number of hands and opinions are in the story. Some items of information are left out, not because they don't want the public to know...believe me sometimes they're pissed they can't put information in a story...but it's the fear of being sued (which so often happens these days because people are so thin-skinned it's ridiculous). That's another person who sometimes gets their hands on a story...and god help us it's true...the lawyers.

Yes, I get to see the entire press-conference...I see the statement in it's full context without being cut down or trimmed for bias. Yes, I see information come over the wires that for some reason or another no one ever seems to make a point of (which I oftentimes question). You can see much of what I see everyday...but most Americans don't want to see it...they prefer life with their blinders on. It makes it soooo much easier to be apathetic. You and anyone else can watch C-Span or any other number of sources for full press conferences, etc. You could write off for copies of laws and decisions handed down by judges, etc. People don't want to. It's out there; it's public domain, but no one wants to dig for the truths or see the writing on the wall. I have no decision in what hits the air at my station, I sometimes which I did. But I see it all everyday. The stuff that most people don't want to see or know....so yeah, I'm pretty well informed and if I could tell the world the pieces of the big puzzle I see sometimes, I would. Well, I was, until I was just attacked. Don't attack, until you get facts...please.

So anyway, don't blame reporters...they're doing the best they can with what they're given. And remember, especially thanks to FOX News Channel, TV news has become mostly infotainment, not news. It's what will grab the ratings.

Real news went out with Walter Cronkite I'm sorry to say.

CE

[SpooRancher]

Dan Randall?

Is colonyearth Dan Randall?

(JUST KIDDING, I am NOT trying to make any judgements on the membership here, trying to make a little joke to lighten things up, but I did notice some similar things in the last post to what Dan Randall said in "Illusion of Truth" when he was trying to convince Sheridan to go along with the interviews)

[CRONAN]

Yeah, maybe all that stuff is true, but i HATE the people who shove a camera in front of your face and harrass you with questions, the people who camp outside your backyard and snap pictures of you in the pool; the people who spit in your face and insult you in front of millions; theres a point when it stops being dignified and descends into the realms of of shameless gossip and gross violation.

In some ways I sympathize ; It must be degrading not standing up for your principles on a day to day basis.

Glad im not a journalist.

Imagine what it would be like if they only gave us the facts and let the public think for themselves.

Well as to the media having some consequences for some of the things they say I should think its a mixed bag. If some slimy corporation is actually doing these things then people have a right to know about it. On the other hand if their supspicions are false then publishing a story like that serves no one.

In principle I believe the truth is the bottom line here. The Truth is not subjective. There is only one Truth. People should be allowed the freedom to make their decisions based on the Truth.