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    B5 Year 4 sucked? NO!

    "Ian J. Ball" on rec.arts.sf.tv
    > B5 - I didn't see the last season, but even season #4 was a
    > letdown with the absurd resolution to The Shadow War.



    I see a LOT of Babylon 5 saying exactly or similar comments. I don't understand why?

    I thought season 4 of Babylon 5 was the best season. IMHO the end of the Shadow War made perfect sense... they certainly couldn't beat the Shadows/Vorlons through force... only through rejecting them as parents. Back in 1992, JMS described the show as "Children growing up and taking control of their own lives," and that's exactly what happened.

    And, I liked all the mini-arcs: The Minbari Civil War (with the excellent acting of Neroon!!!!). The Earth Civil War. Garibaldi's Betrayal. And the Birth of the Alliance. Season 4 was a much stronger season than season 3 (which had boring stand-alone episodes...like that horrible King Arthur episode). I can not find a single season 4 episode I did not like. *It's near-perfection.*

    Also, I don't consider Season 4 to be as "damaged" as most people say. JMS said that Episode 422 became episode 419... only 3 episodes difference. That's a Trivial modification.
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    If you look to a previous thread, you'll find the fans here voted Season 4 their favourite.

    To be kinda blunt, the vast majority of fans loved Season 4. There's a few people who complain about lack of a win through force with the Shadow War... but not a whole lot. Certainly not enough to forumlate a real, valid complaint, simply a matter of opinion and differences in taste. You liked it or you didn't. Most did. Not really a whole lot left to say on the matter.

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    • #3
      Season 4 is my favorite!!!
      I hate Lord of the Rings...every one to his/her own opinion.
      Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kevin
        If you look to a previous thread, you'll find the fans here voted Season 4 their favourite.
        They were wrong, of course, Season 3 was better (for reasons I explained in that thread).

        However, as you say, I am in a distinct minority, and even I, the uber-champion of Season 3 (and the excellent "King Arthur episode" ) loved Season 4 almost as much as Season 3. Only the last episode (DoFS) was a real snoozer to me, and that was certainly excusable given the circumstances.
        I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone .. our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit .. that the part of me that is going .. will very much miss the part of you that is staying.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by grumbler
          They were wrong, of course, Season 3 was better (for reasons I explained in that thread).
          That was a joke i presume
          Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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          • #6
            Hmmmm..... well I'd say the majority of folks at rec.arts.sf.tv (where I hang out) considered Season 4 inferior.

            Maybe they are just more vocal.




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            • #7
              People in the vast minority are always the one that yell the loudest where they think they'll be heard by a lot of people.

              Keep that in mind whenever you go to any sort of internet based message board

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              • #8
                Hmmmm..... well I'd say the majority of folks at rec.arts.sf.tv (where I hang out) considered Season 4 inferior.
                I wondered why you were duplicating so many threads from there to here.

                Jan
                "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                • #9
                  I thought season 4 was outstanding. It did feel a little rushed, but that was kinda inevitable.

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                  • #10
                    you are not alone grumbler.. I also preferred season3.
                    not that 4 was bad.. but 3 was better

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by elkor
                      you are not alone grumbler.. I also preferred season3.
                      not that 4 was bad.. but 3 was better
                      Elkor, you are a poster with taste and refinement... and there are so few of us! Welcome.
                      I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone .. our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit .. that the part of me that is going .. will very much miss the part of you that is staying.

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                      • #12
                        <<People in the vast minority are always the one that yell the loudest where they think they'll be heard by a lot of people.>>

                        I LOVE that statement...
                        Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                        • #13
                          THE MORAL MAJORITY

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