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  • Originally posted by vacantlook View Post
    I was eyeing that storyboard and wondering. Whatever way it's used to further the story, it sounds awesome.
    OMFG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (to break finally into Internet slang after so many years)

    What a spoiler point. Wowsers!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Also, if I can quote one non-spoiler....
    At the end of filming, Straczynski was able to return to Los Angeles for a few days to follow up on the screenplays and comic scripts he had put aside and to say hello to his cat Buddy, who had gone on a food strike and would only eat when Straczynski called in via speaker phone.
    That damn cat.....
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    • I like that they got in a jibe -- intentional or not -- at Warner Bros for having "misplaced" all the original CGI from the show, and how fan recreations were turned to for Atmosphere to have a jumping off point for their now more advanced models.

      I also got a big smile reading them describe Straczynski as "never at loss for a story".

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      • Sorry if this has been asked before but, will TLT come out on HD-DVD?

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        • Originally posted by Stryker412 View Post
          Sorry if this has been asked before but, will TLT come out on HD-DVD?
          It's definitely being produced in HD, and I would venture a guess and say there is a pretty good chance that it will eventually be released in one of the HD formats. However, far as I know only the DVD version has been announced so far for July, and neither a HD-DVD or Blu-ray version of TLT has been announced yet.

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          • I'd just like to add in here that so far, Warners has supported both Blu-ray and HD-DVD, so if they do produce an HD version, there's a good chance it'll be avaliable in both formats, if they do in fact do an HD version.

            It'd be nice since I sure do like getting to use the HD-DVD add-on for my Xbox360, but personally I'm not counting on it.

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            • Originally posted by vacantlook View Post
              I like that they got in a jibe -- intentional or not -- at Warner Bros for having "misplaced" all the original CGI from the show,
              Warner Brothers richly deserves it, for making Babylonian turn over all the files, and then for losing it all.


              Originally posted by vacantlook View Post
              ...and how fan recreations were turned to for Atmosphere to have a jumping off point for their now more advanced models.
              I'm GLAD it happened, SHOCKED but GLAD. I would have never believed that Warner Brothers would have gone for that. I'd see them as more likely to sue the fans for creating/having that stuff. Yes, I know it'd be them cutting off their nose to spite their face, but companies act like that, and Warner Brothers is dysfunctional (composed of spiteful fiefdoms) and pretty much devoid of common sense.
              KoshN
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              • Originally posted by KoshN View Post
                I'm GLAD it happened, SHOCKED but GLAD. I would have never believed that Warner Brothers would have gone for that. I'd see them as more likely to sue the fans for creating/having that stuff. Yes, I know it'd be them cutting off their nose to spite their face, but companies act like that, and Warner Brothers is dysfunctional (composed of spiteful fiefdoms) and pretty much devoid of common sense.
                I'm not sure that's fair, KoshN. From the very beginning, WB has been good about allowing images on websites as long as the proper copyright info was included. Yes, JMS went to bat for the fans to get them to take that attitude, but I've never heard of any unjust Cease & Desist letters going out from WB against fan websites like I have about Paramount and Trek sites.

                Jan
                "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                • Originally posted by Jan View Post
                  I'm not sure that's fair, KoshN. From the very beginning, WB has been good about allowing images on websites as long as the proper copyright info was included. Yes, JMS went to bat for the fans to get them to take that attitude, but I've never heard of any unjust Cease & Desist letters going out from WB against fan websites like I have about Paramount and Trek sites.

                  Jan
                  while paramount has done it the worst offender of this type is fox and lucas on star wars stuff. they had fans arrested for doing little videos wearing storm trooper outfits and other such shinagins, as well as C&D letters, forcing sites down, etc

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                  • Originally posted by Lunan View Post
                    while paramount has done it the worst offender of this type is fox and lucas on star wars stuff. they had fans arrested for doing little videos wearing storm trooper outfits and other such shinagins, as well as C&D letters, forcing sites down, etc
                    I don't know if I really agree with that, Lucasfilm has been very supportive of the fan film competitions, and has typically supported and worked with a lot of the major SW sites out there. George Lucas himself even appeared and participated in Stephen Colbert's Green Screen Challenge, which was most certainly *not* authorized ahead of time.

                    Hell, the fan community of the 501st even got themselves worked into the official Extended Universe for christ's sake. I don't really feel like SW fans have a whole lot to whine about.

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                    • Originally posted by vacantlook View Post
                      Wow! Serious spoilers indeed! This is definitely the kind of spoiler that is worth avoiding! Unless this ends up being yet another instance of things not being what they at first appear. Either way, part of me wishes I hadn't read it, but the other part of me finds myself exponetially more eager now for this thing to be released so I can buy it!!
                      Hi!
                      Could you please tell me where the spoiler is situated!?

                      I've read the first introduction, and everything under "J Michael Straczynski" except for the very last paragraph, as well as looked at the pictures including the storyboard (knowing that Galen is in the movie, I don't think we should put too much into it ).

                      So, what else can I read without reading the spoiler???

                      Regards
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                      • Originally posted by iamsheridan View Post
                        Hi!
                        Could you please tell me where the spoiler is situated!?

                        I've read the first introduction, and everything under "J Michael Straczynski" except for the very last paragraph, as well as looked at the pictures including the storyboard (knowing that Galen is in the movie, I don't think we should put too much into it ).

                        So, what else can I read without reading the spoiler???

                        Regards
                        If you've looked at the storyboard, that sequence is pretty much what the spoiler is.

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                        • Originally posted by Jan View Post
                          I'm not sure that's fair, KoshN. From the very beginning, WB has been good about allowing images on websites as long as the proper copyright info was included. Yes, JMS went to bat for the fans to get them to take that attitude, but I've never heard of any unjust Cease & Desist letters going out from WB against fan websites like I have about Paramount and Trek sites.

                          Jan
                          The thing is, using the fan creations pretty much forces Warner Brothers to look at and be aware of those fan creations, and prior to this it seemed to me that they were just tacitly looking the other way. When The Eye is forced to stare at these things is when you can have trouble. Like I said, I'm GLAD that they acted the way they evidently did, but it wouldn't have surprised me if they'd have taken a spiteful stance, especially given this:

                          When the original B5 wrapped, all the wireframes, set pieces, wardrobe, designs, and renderings of the station, ships, planets, and everything was handed over to WB, which requested nothing be copied for personal archives.
                          If Babylonian wasn't permitted to keep any of the CGI, what makes you think that Warner Brothers would be easy on the fans having any of the CGI, even if they made it from scratch themselves?
                          KoshN
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                          • [QUOTE=KoshN;36299][quote]When the original B5 wrapped, all the wireframes, set pieces, wardrobe, designs, and renderings of the station, ships, planets, and everything was handed over to WB, which requested nothing be copied for personal archives.
                            If Babylonian wasn't permitted to keep any of the CGI, what makes you think that Warner Brothers would be easy on the fans having any of the CGI, even if they made it from scratch themselves?
                            What makes you think they'd act otherwise? The bit that you quoted is no more than standard business practice as is complying with same. What they produced was work for hire and had as much business being taken home as the memos or spreadsheets I produce at work - none.

                            My reaction to that paragraph was kind of a wink-and-nod, though. Seems to me that if some personal archives from the former staff were quietly collected and used, it'd be a bit of protection for those folks to publicly claim that recreated fan files were used. Who knows, might be a mixture of both.

                            Jan
                            "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                            • Originally posted by Shabaz View Post
                              If you've looked at the storyboard, that sequence is pretty much what the spoiler is.
                              Thanks a lot! I'll read the rest then.

                              [Edit]HEY
                              The spoiler part was in the last paragraph of "Tim Earls, storyboard artist"!

                              And HEY
                              There is a page two to the article!
                              [/Edit]
                              iamsheridan
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                              • What's funny is that this is the kind of thing that was suggested online, like "Hey, they should just go to the the guys who made "In the Pirkinning" and all those great old Spacebattles.com movies and use their meshes and wireframes as a starting point." But who really thought they would do it? I think it's very cool for all parties involved. The fans come through again.
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