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  • Well, it doesn't sound like they made everything up. Check what JMS said in an e-mail that went out to the Scriptbook Mailing list on December 1st. (Scroll down past the pictures for the messages.)

    Or you can click-and-drag on the spoiler box below to see the relevant text:

    This first DVD, entitled "Voices in the Dark," covers the same 72 hour period of time as Sheridan travels on board a Presidential Cruiser en route to Babylon 5 from Minbar for a celebration marking the 10th anniversary of the founding of the Interstellar Alliance. One part of the story follows Sheridan as he picks up an unexpected visitor on the edge of Centauri space, Prince Regent Dius Vintari, and a warning about what will come afterward delivered by the techno-mage, Galen. The other part of the story is set aboard Babylon 5, as Colonel Lochley summons a priest from Earth space to deal with a problem that may have dark supernatural overtones. The two parts of the greater story intersect at certain key plot and thematic points, so that they overlap and complement each other while telling separate, but simultaneous, stories.


    Regards,

    Joe
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    Last edited by Joseph DeMartino; 12-27-2006, 07:59 AM.
    Joseph DeMartino
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    • Originally posted by B5_Obsessed
      Oh, no! Let's not open up that discussion again!
      Discussion of the Rangers pilot? Agreed!

      Originally posted by B5_Obsessed
      Some parts I liked and others I certainly did not. I know for a fact that I was guilty of wanting to like it a bit too much for my own judgement. I was not pleased with the effects (and I'm not talking about hyperspace), but we all know the backstory on that anyway. Yes, it had potential. I'll just leave it at that.
      I, too, really wanted to like the Rangers pilot, but just couldn't. Let's just say that a few really nice roses were growing out of that pile.
      Mac Breck (KoshN)
      ------------------
      Warner Brothers is Lucy.
      JMS and we fans are collectively Charlie Brown.
      Babylon 5 is the football.

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      • JMS update with release info

        Just found on the moderated group:


        Ranger Elenopa wrote:
        > Hi JMS,

        > I was just thinking, we hadn't heard anything for a while about 'The
        > Lost Tales' (like when we can buy it!).


        > As it is just about new year, can you tell us anything?

        Not much to say at the moment. The studios shut down two weeks ago,
        everybody's on hiatus. The post production process continues apace,
        with animatics having come down before the break for approval so they
        can start the heavy rendering. I came up with an opening set-piece
        which is now being storyboarded out, and we have someone now designing
        a new title sequence as well. We'll just keep doing this until
        February/March, when we do the final mix, with the release date slated
        for the week of July 27th.

        jms
        The weekend of July 27 just happens to be the weekend of San Diego Comic Con.

        Jan
        "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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        • Wondering if JMS will have a minute or two sneak peek at the New York Con in Feb...
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          • Funny, I asked that same question. Let's see if he stops back to that thread and answers. Hope so, because I'm planning on being there.

            Jan
            "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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            • Looks like he won't have anything he feels is sufficiently ready in time for NYCC:

              Title: Re: Attn: JMS - NY Comic Con and TLT sneak peek
              Author: [email protected]
              Date: 19 Jan 2007 21:24:42 -0800
              Message-ID: <[email protected] com>

              Amy Guskin wrote:
              > So, JMS...enquiring minds want to know whether you think you might possibly
              > be potentially having the slightest inclination of maybe considering thinking
              > about bringing along to New York Comic Con any footage whatsoever that might
              > possibly be from, oh, I dunno, B5:TLT...?
              >
              > (If you can be bribed, I'm planning on making at least one trip downtown to
              > La Bella Ferrara's for cannoli while I'm there.)
              >
              > Amy

              The cgi won't be sufficiently finished to bring anything of substance,
              and we don't do the final audio mix until March, and I'm leery of
              bringing anything that isn't balanced. (Well, with the exception of me
              but I don't have much choice there.)

              We are, however, planning to do a lot of stuff for San Diego, including
              a trailer made just for SDCC (with an intro I recorded on the stages in
              Vancouver), a director's blog, and perhaps some other googies. But
              nothing of that for NYCC, I'm afraid, with the possible exception of
              maybe one or two of the blogs, if they're sufficiently done by then.

              jms
              Jan
              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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              • This really bugs me. I mean, they finished filming in November and are well into post-production now, and JMS has known for some time that he's going to be attending a large east-coast convention. It seems inconceivable to me that they wouldn't have planned to specifically get even one two-minute piece of film, something that looks like something, ready for this. And as I replied to him on the mod, it seems kind of strange that they'll only have a trailer ready the same weekend the DVD is coming out. I realize that they're marketing to more than just B5 fans -- they'll want to draw in people who won't have the DVD advance-ordered on Amazon.com -- but to miss the chance of creating some buzz at New York Comic Con just seems like a wasted opportunity, IMHO.

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                • Could be. I've been assuming that NYCC is going to be more comic oriented than SDCC is, though, so maybe that's why JMS wasn't figuring on bringing something B5. Being just it's second year, it's hard to tell if NYCC will become as multi-media as SDCC.

                  Jan
                  "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                  • what's a googie?
                    It seems even the great maker is not averse to the odd typo
                    Phaze
                    on the "not that I'm perfect you understand, but I'm working on perfection target is 2012" ID
                    "There are no good wars. War is always the worst possible way to resolve differences. It degenerates and corrupts both sides to ever more sordid levels of existence, in their need to gain an advantage over the enemy. Those actively involved in combat are almost always damaged goods for the rest of their lives. If their bodies don't bear scars, their minds do, ofttimes both. Many have said it before, but it can't be said to enough, war is hell. "

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                    • And as I replied to him on the mod, it seems kind of strange that they'll only have a trailer ready the same weekend the DVD is coming out.
                      Well, in fairness to JMS he doesn't say that the first and only trailer is going to be shown at SDCC. He says that a special trailer is being produced that will be shown exclusively at SDCC. Presumably there will be all sorts of stuff on the website and elsewhere, including various trailers, prior to the con, with a special SDCC-only version as a "treat" (like the blooper reels were at the B5 conventions) for the folks at JMS's "home" con on the launch weekend.

                      And given how much use of TLT apparently of virtual sets, until the CGI comes I don't find it implausible that there isn't much that they can cut together into any kind of "trailer". Especially since they couldn't start rendering on the CGI until they had the final cut of the film and knew exactly how long each virtual set segment and space shot was going to run.

                      Frustrating, but probably not avoidable given the schedules. And I'm sure we'll see promos and trailers well before July, even if the uber-cool version is reserved for SDCC.

                      Regards,

                      Joe
                      Joseph DeMartino
                      Sigh Corps
                      Pat Tallman Division

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                      • It just seems crazy to me. I assume they're still trying to cut a deal to get the thing broadcast, and there's certainly a television presence in New York. To say I'm disappointed -- in addition to surprised -- would be putting it mildly. I have to really think about whether I still want to go, even. I don't really care that much about what JMS has to say in his Q&As; the important stuff will get quoted online. And as Jan points out, it's mainly a comics con, which to me isn't as much fun as a general media con. But the chance to be the first to see even a snippet of new Babylon 5 was something I was really looking forward to. Phooey, I say!

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                        • I'm not surprised. From the very moment that he announced it, JMS has said that there's massive amounts of CGI involved in this project. This was only reinforced by the amount of green screen we see in the photos he released. I expect that a major percentage is going to be composite shots and I'd think that, even with today's technology, those would be the most complex to do properly.

                          When JMS brought some of the Crusade episodes to a con here in FL, one was complete except for some of the music cues and the other was only missing a few effects. I don't think he'd ever show something that was less complete than that since it wouldn't give a true feel for the episodes.

                          If anything, the most I might have hoped for was a glimpse of the opening title sequence. I've always enjoyed those.

                          Jan
                          "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                          • Originally posted by Joseph DeMartino View Post
                            And given how much use of TLT apparently of virtual sets, until the CGI comes I don't find it implausible that there isn't much that they can cut together into any kind of "trailer". Especially since they couldn't start rendering on the CGI until they had the final cut of the film and knew exactly how long each virtual set segment and space shot was going to run.
                            They can do a radio play trailer. A couple of actors in front of a nice green background.

                            The other thing is who is paying for JMS's room?
                            Marvel comics may not be happy having Warner Brothers DVD steal their news reports.
                            Andrew Swallow

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                            • Since he's listed as a Guest of Honor of the convention, the con would be picking up his expenses. As for the 'radio play trailer', yes, they *could have* done something like that but if they didn't record it back in November it's not likely to exist by February.

                              Jan
                              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                              • Originally posted by Jan View Post
                                If anything, the most I might have hoped for was a glimpse of the opening title sequence. I've always enjoyed those.
                                That's funny, because I could swear that you were the one who put the idea in my head in the first place that maybe he would bring something TLT with him, which is what got me excited about going to the con at all!

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