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  • sftv
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    Atari ST Files

    I'll see what I can dig back up, although it appears that the archive David Strauss provided Doug O covers most of the missing GEnie posts. I missed that link when I first looked through the thread.

    It's hard to believe its been 14 years since the Phoenix WesterCon presentation mentioned at the start of that archive file. Rick Sternbach was one of those squeezed into the room, BTW. He was the artist Guest of Honor.

    Lee Whiteside

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  • Mike Detlefsen
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    Originally posted by sftv
    I've done some digging in my old Atari ST 3.5" floppy disks and have found some that may have missing posts. Unfortunately, some of them aren't readable from a PC and may no longer be readable from an Atari ST. Disks formatted on an ST weren't readable on a PC, but ones formatted on a PC were readable on an ST. I don't have a working ST to check them out.
    I have a working ST. If you want me to give it a try, let me know.

    Mike

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  • Jan
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    I think there are still quite a number of JMS posts from the forum on AOL. I'd love if they were found (quite selfishly) because that's where I asked him my first questions.

    Jan

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  • NotSoWize
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    Fortunately, DougO's post (see the first page on this thread) contains a link to a bunch of the "missing posts." So, while I doubt that every JMS post ever is now accounted for at least there are no huge gaping months of emptiness in the archive.

    Of course if more of the posts are discovered and added to the database, that would be a very good thing.

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  • sftv
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    Missing Posts

    Most of the missing posts were from GEnie, which was where Joe was posting most of the time. At the time, I think we were archving some of them on the ftp site that turned into the Lurker's guide. When things got put together to archive them here, not all of those posts were up there.

    I've done some digging in my old Atari ST 3.5" floppy disks and have found some that may have missing posts. Unfortunately, some of them aren't readable from a PC and may no longer be readable from an Atari ST. Disks formatted on an ST weren't readable on a PC, but ones formatted on a PC were readable on an ST. I don't have a working ST to check them out.

    Before GEnie went under, I probably should have made sure the B5 archives there were preserved but never got around to it in time.

    Lee Whiteside
    SFTV.org Webmaster

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  • vacantlook
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    Just for the sake of having it easily accessible in this thread: Hawthorne High School Comic Con transcript

    JMS:... I ran into some guys who worked for TNT about two years after Crusade went down. And they said, "Did you ever hear the rest of the story?" JMS: "What rest of the story?" TNT guys: "We found out, we did a research survey, a five year long study of our ratings. This was just after Crusade got going. And, we found out that the audience for B5 came for B5, then left afterward. And the TNT regular viewers didn't stick around for B5 and went away and came back. B5 wasn't adding to our viewer base." So...they decided to pull the plug on Crusade for that reason and use the money to buy another show. But they couldn't say that because they'd be in breach of contract with Warner Bros. So their job was to make it impossible for us so they could then say, "We aren't getting the show we want, our notes aren't being dealt with, therefore we aren't responsible, we're canceling the show, this is your nut Warner Bros., you take care of it." That is why all the notes became so egregious. If I had given them everything they wanted, they still would have pulled the plug. They just wanted out....

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  • Joseph DeMartino
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    Just look at Crusade or Firefly...
    Crusade is a unique case though, as it wasn't "cancelled" after it aired, it was shut down over creative differences months before then. TNT only burned off the finished shows to recoup some of cost of making them and there was never any intent on the network's part of continuing the series - nor on JMS's part of working with TNT again.

    Regards,

    Joe

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  • DougO
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    I thought I'd post a copy of my reply to the other thread here just in case people missed it:

    Originally posted by DougO
    Thanks for reminding me. I actually have many of those messages and need to get them imported into the archive. A user named David Strauss sent me his personal archive (thanks!) awhile back which included those date ranges. What I need to do is write a program to parse the files and import the messages into the JMSNews database.

    In the meantime, I did a rough cut/paste of those date ranges into the below text file. It looks like about 200 messages:

    JMS Genie Posts

    It's possible that there are other missing GENIE messages sprinkled throughout David's files. I'll need to sort through it and identify if any are new.

    -DougO

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  • Dr Maturin
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    Originally posted by Kloreep
    The original B5 somehow made it through.

    It's true that shows are getting cancelled in ridiculously short order, though. Just look at Crusade or Firefly...
    B5 wasn't on a major network. Plus, TV would be hard for JMS since he likes to be independent, and TV people do not like that trait in their writers/producers. A movie would be the way to go.

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  • Kloreep
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    Originally posted by LessonInMachismo
    I really hope that it will not be a series. Whedon was sensible in saying that he'd never do a revival of Firefly because it'd only get canceled. A trilogy of movies would be the way to go.
    The original B5 somehow made it through.

    It's true that shows are getting cancelled in ridiculously short order, though. Just look at Crusade or Firefly...

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  • FuryPilot
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    Originally posted by Jan
    I don't have any new news but don't let the 'Comic Con' name fool you. It's probably at least 50% media and 50% comics.

    Jan
    True, but I'm still going with my guess, but I would welcome almost any B5 project.

    Hope you're having fun.

    FP

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by FuryPilot
    Considering the venue I'm presuming it is going to be a comic series or a graphic novel.
    I don't have any new news but don't let the 'Comic Con' name fool you. It's probably at least 50% media and 50% comics.

    Jan

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  • FuryPilot
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    Originally posted by NotSoWize
    Well, pending JMS' "big" announcement at the convention, maybe we will ALL get some new B5 episodes before too long!
    Considering the venue I'm presuming it is going to be a comic series or a graphic novel.

    FP

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  • Dr Maturin
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    I really hope that it will not be a series. Whedon was sensible in saying that he'd never do a revival of Firefly because it'd only get canceled. A trilogy of movies would be the way to go.

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  • NotSoWize
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    Originally posted by Jan
    Oh...and I SO envy you actually having 'new' B5 episodes to see for the first time. Lucky, lucky thing!

    Jan
    Well, pending JMS' "big" announcement at the convention, maybe we will ALL get some new B5 episodes before too long!

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