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  • "Missing" JMS Posts from '92-'93?

    I posted this to "Site Issues" (or something like that) but have not had any response yet, so I thought I'd try this more active forum.

    I am just wondering about the "blank spots" as far as JMS posts back in the early 90's. I'm really enjoying reading all about the pre-production days on The Gathering, but there must be a bunch of missing posts from July and October of 1992 and a bunch of early 1993. I haven't found any info on these "missing posts" in the FAQ. Are all of those posts gone forever?

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    Welcome, NotSoWize. Glad you joined us.

    I for one don't really have an answer for you. I always assumed that the gaps were simply when JMS got busy and didn't post. I can't say for certain one way or the other, though. I never really considered "lost" posts. If there are missing messages, I wouldn't have any idea of where else they might have been archived.
    "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by NotSoWize
      I posted this to "Site Issues" (or something like that) but have not had any response yet, so I thought I'd try this more active forum.

      I am just wondering about the "blank spots" as far as JMS posts back in the early 90's. I'm really enjoying reading all about the pre-production days on The Gathering, but there must be a bunch of missing posts from July and October of 1992 and a bunch of early 1993. I haven't found any info on these "missing posts" in the FAQ. Are all of those posts gone forever?
      He was probably busy developing a little series called Babylon 5.
      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LessonInMachismo
        He was probably busy developing a little series called Babylon 5.
        Really? I thought that it Rove who had the posts removed...
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        Co-host of The Second Time Around podcast
        www.benedictfamily.org/podcast

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        • #5
          Well, to go from 300+ posts in the month before "The Gathering" aired to ZERO posts in the month it aired and the four or five afterwards doesn't seem likely to me. JMS was posting while filming "The Gathering" and while working very long days on the final editing of the pilot, so I don't think he just was overwhelmed with his workload. And he sure seemed psyched to hear what folks thought of the show. Maybe someone, somewhere knows what happened?

          Anyhow, thanks for the welcome! I first came across B5 somewhere in the middle of season 3 during its first run on PTEN. Even though I really liked it, for some reason I stopped watching at the beginning of season five (maybe I was crushed by the loss of Ivanova?) and never watched most of that season. I've been watching the whole series on DVD over the past few months and still have about 10 episodes from season 5 to go. The cool thing is that I've never seen those episodes before so I have really been having a great time watching a "new" season of B5!

          I will probably post more often here once I've finished season 5 as I really do not want to run across any spoilers before I finish the saga.
          Last edited by NotSoWize; 07-20-2006, 03:25 PM.

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          • #6
            Hi, NotSoWize, and welcome.

            I saw your post but thought it was more of a question for DougO to answer. He's traveling this week, too, and might not have seen it.

            I know that JMS's posts weren't gathered here from the beginning. I think that it was after a number of people had begun mailing lists of posts around that this site came to be (Memo to self: get the story from DougO). Once JMS gave his permission, it became necessary for the folks who'd been doing the mailing lists to compile the posts for archiving and I think some just weren't saved. I know that quite a number of JMS's AOL posts are missing here because that's where I first encountered him online and began asking him questions.

            This is just guesswork, though. I'll ask DougO if/when I see him here at the convention.

            Oh...and I SO envy you actually having 'new' B5 episodes to see for the first time. Lucky, lucky thing!

            Jan
            Last edited by Jan; 07-20-2006, 10:21 PM.
            "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jan
              Oh...and I SO envy you actually having 'new' B5 episodes to see for the first time. Lucky, lucky thing!

              Jan
              Well, pending JMS' "big" announcement at the convention, maybe we will ALL get some new B5 episodes before too long!

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              • #8
                I really hope that it will not be a series. Whedon was sensible in saying that he'd never do a revival of Firefly because it'd only get canceled. A trilogy of movies would be the way to go.
                Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NotSoWize
                  Well, pending JMS' "big" announcement at the convention, maybe we will ALL get some new B5 episodes before too long!
                  Considering the venue I'm presuming it is going to be a comic series or a graphic novel.

                  FP

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FuryPilot
                    Considering the venue I'm presuming it is going to be a comic series or a graphic novel.
                    I don't have any new news but don't let the 'Comic Con' name fool you. It's probably at least 50% media and 50% comics.

                    Jan
                    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jan
                      I don't have any new news but don't let the 'Comic Con' name fool you. It's probably at least 50% media and 50% comics.

                      Jan
                      True, but I'm still going with my guess, but I would welcome almost any B5 project.

                      Hope you're having fun.

                      FP

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LessonInMachismo
                        I really hope that it will not be a series. Whedon was sensible in saying that he'd never do a revival of Firefly because it'd only get canceled. A trilogy of movies would be the way to go.
                        The original B5 somehow made it through.

                        It's true that shows are getting cancelled in ridiculously short order, though. Just look at Crusade or Firefly...
                        Schlock Mercenary: comic space opera

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kloreep
                          The original B5 somehow made it through.

                          It's true that shows are getting cancelled in ridiculously short order, though. Just look at Crusade or Firefly...
                          B5 wasn't on a major network. Plus, TV would be hard for JMS since he likes to be independent, and TV people do not like that trait in their writers/producers. A movie would be the way to go.
                          Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                          • #14
                            I thought I'd post a copy of my reply to the other thread here just in case people missed it:

                            Originally posted by DougO
                            Thanks for reminding me. I actually have many of those messages and need to get them imported into the archive. A user named David Strauss sent me his personal archive (thanks!) awhile back which included those date ranges. What I need to do is write a program to parse the files and import the messages into the JMSNews database.

                            In the meantime, I did a rough cut/paste of those date ranges into the below text file. It looks like about 200 messages:

                            JMS Genie Posts

                            It's possible that there are other missing GENIE messages sprinkled throughout David's files. I'll need to sort through it and identify if any are new.

                            -DougO

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                            • #15
                              Just look at Crusade or Firefly...
                              Crusade is a unique case though, as it wasn't "cancelled" after it aired, it was shut down over creative differences months before then. TNT only burned off the finished shows to recoup some of cost of making them and there was never any intent on the network's part of continuing the series - nor on JMS's part of working with TNT again.

                              Regards,

                              Joe
                              Joseph DeMartino
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