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  • manwithnoname
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    Originally posted by Jan
    Fans of anything tend to be pretty passionate folks whether its of sports or comics of SF/Fantasy or anything else. When you care about something you tend to be protective of it, hence, the 'drama'.

    Jan
    Don't forget the passions of quilts. I use to work with a lady that is REALLY into making quilts, entering local quilt competitions, hoping to advance to the state nationals then regionals. It was hard to maintain a polite demeanor as she explained the minutae of everything quilt.

    "I gotta use the restroom." This was one of the more polite ways I could use to break away from the World of Quilts History class.

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  • Ulkosh
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    To be fair, compared to many of the internet 'communities' out there, ths one is pretty calm.

    You want to see REAL loonies? Look at some of the Computer/game console 'communities', particularly the Neo Geo and Atari Jaguar ones.

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  • Jan
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    Fans of anything tend to be pretty passionate folks whether its of sports or comics of SF/Fantasy or anything else. When you care about something you tend to be protective of it, hence, the 'drama'.

    Jan

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  • Technomage-Galen
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    Why does there always have to be so much "drama" involved when it comes to anything B5 related.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by grumbler
    One of the unwritten rules of the Internet is "thou shalt not hold what one electronic entity says against another independent electronic entity." The OmahaStar of this forum may not be the same as the one in other fora. Bad cess on Sprague and Mongoose.
    It's Sprange. And I'm sorry but baloney. The man's not stupid and when one 'OmahaStar' behaves badly on his home forum and then comes to another and brags about it, it's entirely within reason to respond as he did. People seem to think that bad manners are somehow allowable on the Internet and I don't buy it.

    [EDIT] And btw, Omaha was very confrontational but didn't behave too badly. I don't think Matthew Sprange would have done anything if he hadn't seen the post over here.

    Jan
    Last edited by Jan; 05-25-2006, 07:17 PM.

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  • grumbler
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    Originally posted by Jan
    Well, in the interest of accuracy, it should be noted that he was responding to you quite politely until he saw your post here that you had gone there to be a 'thorn in his side'. Sorry, Omaha, I don't think that was very cool, either.

    Jan
    One of the unwritten rules of the Internet is "thou shalt not hold what one electronic entity says against another independent electronic entity." The OmahaStar of this forum may not be the same as the one in other fora. Bad cess on Sprague and Mongoose.

    Hell, i could go anywhere I wanted and register as whatever Sprague uses on his home forum and spew whatever I wanted, and he would be quite right to complain that he was being misrepresented.

    The fact that in this case he was right is no real defense.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by OmahaStar
    He doesn't want people to know he's FULL OF SHIT, so instead of coming clean and just saying "My bad", he bans me. Like that's really going to accomplish anything. If I fall, another will take my place. And another. And another. On and on.

    He really just doesn't understand Babylon 5 fans at all.
    Well, in the interest of accuracy, it should be noted that he was responding to you quite politely until he saw your post here that you had gone there to be a 'thorn in his side'. Sorry, Omaha, I don't think that was very cool, either.

    Jan

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  • OmahaStar
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    Originally posted by jal
    Omaha; looks like Sprague has banned you from posting on the Mongoose Forums, it was starting to get a little bit hot there from what i could see.
    I noticed that. It's funny. He is a liar. He's spewing out one lie after another, covering it up, backpeddling, trying to make it sound like everybody BUT him is a bad guy, denying what he himself said on the podcast, saying it must have been an error in the transcript that JMS read.

    He doesn't want people to know he's FULL OF SHIT, so instead of coming clean and just saying "My bad", he bans me. Like that's really going to accomplish anything. If I fall, another will take my place. And another. And another. On and on.

    He really just doesn't understand Babylon 5 fans at all.

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  • jal
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    Originally posted by OmahaStar
    Which is why I'm now becoming a thorn in Matthew Sprague's side. I'm sure I'm not the only one. He did a bad thing, and will not be allowed to forget it.
    Omaha; looks like Sprague has banned you from posting on the Mongoose Forums, it was starting to get a little bit hot there from what i could see.

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  • rallytbk
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    I totally agree with JMS

    *Posted remarks applies to this thread too.

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  • jahkneebee
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    Thanks, Jan, for the Dell and DelRay information.

    I didn't realize there were already two publishers involved in the books published, and that I own! I caught that in JMS's post when reading it today, and thought: Oh, no : how ignorant am I?

    I haven't gotten home to check my bookshelf, but I imagine I will find Dell next to DelRay, just as you predict. It was interesting to read JMS's past experience:
    Originally posted by JMS
    The first Dell books were not what they should have been
    because they tended to operate outside canon; so steps were taken to
    bring the Del Rey books into canon, working closely with the publisher,
    and the fans across the board agree that those novels were better than
    those which preceded them.
    It truly sounds as if he's "been there and done that" already, and has true concerns about the Universe he created being consistent.

    I care that he cares.

    John

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  • OmahaStar
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    Originally posted by rallytbk
    I support JMS for rejecting Mongoose and distancing himselfà Who can blame him?
    Which is why I'm now becoming a thorn in Matthew Sprague's side. I'm sure I'm not the only one. He did a bad thing, and will not be allowed to forget it.

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  • rallytbk
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    Originally posted by JMS
    My involvement with the so-called B5 novels from Mongoose has been
    mis-stated and misrepresented, and the conduct of pillaging my scripts
    and posts without my knowledge or permission is dubious at best,
    dishonorable at worst.
    Originally posted by Matthew Sprange
    If you allow us, we can demonstrate that we can meet all those requirements
    and, indeed, that we are nice guys to work with. There is no ego at
    Mongoose, nor are there any hidden agendas. We are as upfront as we can be.
    Originally posted by Matthew Sprange
    I believe there is a common ground and,
    > as I said, that our goals are likely similar. At the end of the day, we are
    > a company of nice people who are passionate about Babylon 5 and wish to
    > provide fans of the series with a service we can all be proud of.
    >
    > I am willing to email you this evening, or give you a call. We would be
    > happy to fly you to England, at our expense of course, to bring you to our
    > offices and show you, face-to-face, just what it is we are doing, how we are
    > doing it and where we hope to go. If, after that, you believe we are on the
    > wrong track, we would be happy to sit down and bring your ideas front and
    > centre.
    What gets me is that this person keeps trying to get JMSÆs input and cooperation even after he said NO! Kind of, like going in to your house and then asking permission if you mind the extra company. I support JMS for rejecting Mongoose and distancing himselfà Who can blame him?
    Last edited by rallytbk; 05-22-2006, 10:29 AM.

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  • Jan
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    Nothing we've heard B5finland, sorry. I think that even if there were something in the wind, we probably wouldn't hear anything about it until shooting had started considering what happened with TMoS in 2004/2005.

    Jan

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  • b5finland
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    OFFTOPIC:

    Is there any new news about B5 movie or possible tv-series ??

    Original cast is getting old and it would be nice to have something new on B5 universe. Maybe mix of old and new actors and a new series...


    JMS owns the movie rights ? Am i correct?

    WB owns the tv-show rights ?

    This is a big planet and i would bet that somebody wants to do new B5 stuff but nothing happens.. Why is that ?

    Sorry for the poor english... but try to understand im little frustrated because the years go by and nothing happens.

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