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  • #16
    traffic jams? HA!

    Originally posted by Jan
    Oh, sure! There's the parking lot affectionately known as I-4 and the ONE road I can use to get home becomes a parking lot at the smallest fender-bender.

    Of course, it's *always* a tourist's fault! <g>

    Jan
    oh please, I live roughly 11 km from Dublin city centre, IF I leave after 07:15 in the mornign the least amount of time it takes me to get in is an hour and a half. A motorway which cuts across the city routinely has 8 mile, non-moving for 20 mins at a time, tailbacks.

    8 lane highways you have, honestly, you don't know you're born
    Phaze,
    on the "grumpy old man" ID
    "There are no good wars. War is always the worst possible way to resolve differences. It degenerates and corrupts both sides to ever more sordid levels of existence, in their need to gain an advantage over the enemy. Those actively involved in combat are almost always damaged goods for the rest of their lives. If their bodies don't bear scars, their minds do, ofttimes both. Many have said it before, but it can't be said to enough, war is hell. "

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jan
      Oh, sure! There's the parking lot affectionately known as I-4 and the ONE road I can use to get home becomes a parking lot at the smallest fender-bender.

      Of course, it's *always* a tourist's fault! <g>

      Jan
      Jan, next time you are up this way I would be happy to show you some of the parking lots in the NYC area
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      • #18
        Thanks, TB...but I grew up in Chicago and saw plenty of them. I can understand it in huge cities that simply ran out of room but in an area like this, it's just poor planning. But I get a few pages read now and then which saves my blood pressure.

        Jan
        "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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        • #19
          I just got back from a vacation in Paris (my first time in Europe). After seeing the streets there, ours seem so tame. I can't believe I didn't see an accident - very unusual intersections and roundabouts

          When I first arrived and we were getting a ride to our hotel, I wondered what I had gotten myself into. Luckily we didn't have to drive - just look 360 degrees before crossing. After a few days I got used to it (sort of), but I'm sure glad to be home. Makes me appreciate our streets more
          Flying around the room under my own power.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Spoo Junky
            I just got back from a vacation in Paris (my first time in Europe). After seeing the streets there, ours seem so tame. I can't believe I didn't see an accident - very unusual intersections and roundabouts

            When I first arrived and we were getting a ride to our hotel, I wondered what I had gotten myself into. Luckily we didn't have to drive - just look 360 degrees before crossing. After a few days I got used to it (sort of), but I'm sure glad to be home. Makes me appreciate our streets more
            You can find a lot of those wonderful "roundabouts" in New Jersey as well, one of the reasons I tend to stay away from there.
            "Ivanova is God!"

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            • #21
              what is wrong with roundabouts?

              Nothing that a good bulldozer couldn't fix!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by spikey thing
                what is wrong with roundabouts?

                Nothing that a good bulldozer couldn't fix!
                Roundabouts, in traffic terms, called "Circles" in America, are where instead of intersections, you have the roads all merging into a circle around a central grassy area or monument. All roads merge into a circle, clockwise in England and "left-side-driving" countries, counterclockwise in America. Traffic is "theoretically" less slowed, but all of the merging and threading is often difficult (apparantly by the number of accidents I have witnessed at these formations) for people to wrap their brains around.
                "Ivanova is God!"

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